GI: Custom MS6 Short Shift Plate

[superskaterxes]

so after a good interest in the plate i made for my regular 3, i have decided to go ahead and make a short shift plate for the MS6. I already have the TWM which i will be basing my design off of (rather then the JBarone design).

here is my original thread i made for the plate i made for my 3:

DIY: Short Throw Shifter for mazda 3

the pricing for this plate will be as follows:

$60 for the plate and all hardware needed.
$10 extra if you want it powder coated (will be done by dustin btw so know the money is going to a good cause!!!)

the plate will be professionally CNC'd and then welded together by dustin.

here are the people that have already purchased!

1. RichieRichness
2. djuosnteisn
3. Kpop188
4. marriioo
5. 06 speed six
6. bmorrisj
7. sellers
8. i8urgti
9. JDM-P5
10. mfinlay04
11. nelsong
12. Tibu
13. E.m.s.
14. robertof
15. harry warden
16. jmengineer
17. Lakespeed6
18. reaperms6
19. path194
20. mbrown0304


i will post the final picts here for everyone to see!! post up or send me a PM if your interested in one!



FINAL PRODUCT:

Originally Posted by Harry Warden installed the plate today with some solid bushings. had to drill a bottom hole. no "L" bracket tho. took less than an hour. i never would have guessed the stock throw was so long. thanx superskaterxes & djuosnteisn. now get busy and design a better, cheaper BT kit than the competition and sign me up!

Originally Posted by marriioo i havent been around in a while but if anyone is thinking about purchasing these i'd say jump right in.. i installed mine in about 15 min over a month ago and the shit kicks fuckin ass.

Originally Posted by Tibu Overall, it was SOOO worth it. It's like I have a new car now. I am making any excuse I can to go out and drive it. What I'm pondering now is if the JBR kit will play nice with this plate or if it will be too much of an overkill in terms of the short throw.

Originally Posted by RichieRichness Just picked up and installed last night. Anthony did the install with me so a big thanks for that! Here is my first impression review. Install only took 15 minutes! There is a noticeable reduction in throw and shifter play/slop. Feels very solid and tight! I'd highly recommend this product Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by bmorrisj its def way shorter throw with the JB ssp... but the reason i got this piece was to run it without the ssp and keep shorter throw without the increased effort (from decreased mech advantage at the tranny side linkage this achieves a short throw with easy engagement

Originally Posted by path914 I have been trying to like my JBR SSP for the past few months and just couldn't get over the increased shift effort and notchy-ness. After two days with this shifter I am relieved not to have to go back to the stocker. Thanks superskaterxes for a great alternative!

[RichieRichness]

Should be thicker and stronger than the TWM too!

[speedtown]

I already have the TWM one, is this going to be the same reduction in throw or is it going to be more?

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by speedtown I already have the TWM one, is this going to be the same reduction in throw or is it going to be more?

going to be identical to TWM

[spec2k5]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes going to be identical to TWM

Its gonna be the same as the twm AND require drilling? Who would want
this when there are much better solutions that don't require drilling? I
wouldn't bother with this personally.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by spec2k5 Its gonna be the same as the twm AND require drilling? Who would want this when there are much better solutions that don't require drilling? I wouldn't bother with this personally.

the twm also requires drilling the same hole.........

its one small hole in the side of the shifter that you will never see once its installed. you dont even need to take the shifter out of the console to drill either.

and considering my plate is less than HALF the price of TWM, i would say a tiny hole is hardly something to make a stink about.

[kpop188]

already have seen it and tested it.. from using a stock shift plate to testing it on superskater mazda3... big difference

[speedtown]

oh def man, had you mad this before I bought mine forever ago I would have bought it in a heart beat. It just a piece of metal for gods sake, I got mine used so I didn't pay much more than what you're charging.

It's stupid easy to install once you look at things and this is a good price and decent reduction in throw. Once you get it on you'll be so suprised at how long the stock throw really is.

[superskaterxes]

plates should be done this week, then off to dustin for welding!!!

[bombdotcom]

i have the jbarone short shift plate and honestly it didnt do anything, my shifts feel the same?

should i feel a noticable difference? how much are these running and when will they be available?

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by bombdotcom i have the jbarone short shift plate and honestly it didnt do anything, my shifts feel the same? should i feel a noticable difference? how much are these running and when will they be available?

Tbot has both the jbarone SSP and the twm STS and it was super short. he can comment further or PM him for more details.

pricing is in OP and i should have them by end of next week.

[m4tic]

i think i may be interested in one... how is the effort on this compared to the jb ssp?

Originally Posted by bombdotcom i have the jbarone short shift plate and honestly it didnt do anything, my shifts feel the same? should i feel a noticable difference? how much are these running and when will they be available?

after i took off my jbarone ssp, i thought my shifter was loose/broken from how far it was moving. if you ever experienced the fun that is the shift cable popping/breaking off, youll know what i mean.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by bmorrisj i think i may be interested in one... how is the effort on this compared to the jb ssp? after i took off my jbarone ssp, i thought my shifter was loose/broken from how far it was moving. if you ever experienced the fun that is the shift cable popping/breaking off, youll know what i mean.

i dunno whats involved with the SSP but for this one you simply bolt it to the shifter using the stock hole on the bottom and then you use the predrilled hole in the plate to guide a 1/4" drill bit through the stock shifter. then slide the included bolt and nut through and your all done. all you need to remove is the cup holders and the next section with the boot which both pop out. instructions will be included but they are the same as the TWM ones essentially.

[m4tic]

ha i meant shift effort, how much arm muscle you need to get into gear

[superskaterxes]

The whole reason I started making these was because I hated how hard it was to shift when I was the jbarone ssp on my 3. This plate makes it infinately easier

[m4tic]

[sellers]

So wait, this is installed inside the cabin, like where the TWM installs? I don't have any problems with effort with my Jbarone, but I also have a heavy shift knob. If it goes in the same place as the TWM, couldn't they be used in conjunction?

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by sellers So wait, this is installed inside the cabin, like where the TWM installs? I don't have any problems with effort with my Jbarone, but I also have a heavy shift knob. If it goes in the same place as the TWM, couldn't they be used in conjunction?

yes, yes, and yes.

theres a few people who are running both.

[sellers]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes yes, yes, and yes. theres a few people who are running both.

So I'm sure you guys have addressed all the issues that people were running into with the first two versions of the TWM's, but are you going to be offering any warranty with these? What happens when a shift cable breaks?

[m4tic]

Originally Posted by sellers So I'm sure you guys have addressed all the issues that people were running into with the first two versions of the TWM's, but are you going to be offering any warranty with these? What happens when a shift cable breaks?

add a disclaimer

[sellers]

Originally Posted by bmorrisj add a disclaimer

That's what I want to know...am I on my own if this fucks something up? Not that I don't trust your guy's ability to make parts, but just as a "for instance", when a member's shift cable broke Jamie replaced it for free ($350+), just something to take into consideration. I'm just curious if its worth the savings for no warranty, etc. Not trying to bash the idea or anything, because I do love cheap parts.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by sellers So I'm sure you guys have addressed all the issues that people were running into with the first two versions of the TWM's, but are you going to be offering any warranty with these? What happens when a shift cable breaks?

which issues are these? ive had my TWM for almost 3 years without a single problem.

and theres no way anyones shifter cable broke because of a STS. the mounting location difference is no wheres near far enough away to cause any problems.

[m4tic]

oh yea.. my shift cable broke from installing the JB ssp.. but that was from my ratchet extension breaking the plastic cable guide when installing the bracket spacers... shortcutting and not popping off the cable caused me 6 months of headache

this is a pm correspondence between me and jb.. simple question about the shift cable location

Originally Posted by bmorrisj I have elongated the front bolt hole and rotated the bracket. it looks pretty straight. I'm going to see how this works with the ssp installed. the shifter feels loose/broken without it haha Originally Posted by jbarone If you have the old bracket I bet just switching it out will work. I think there is something different about the new bracket. Keep me posted please. Thanks, Jamie Originally Posted by bmorrisj that may be what im looking for.. i have an extra bracket... i will give that shot Originally Posted by jbarone Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I see exactly what you mean now. I wonder why it's that way now because I don't think it was like that before? Anyway I read that another guy elongated 1 of the holes in the cable mounting bracket it so could pivot and correct the angle. Does that make sense? Jamie Originally Posted by bmorrisj does this paint a better picture? the cable guide (yellow cone) is actually pushed out from the cable sideload (green to red line) and exposes the cable allowing it to flex is there a way to rotate the bracket so the cable is more parallel with the gate selector cable? also is this a reason for increased effort, loading the cable against the plastic guide? (other than reduced mech advantage) Originally Posted by jbarone I think I have an idea of what you're trying to describe but is there any way you could send me some pictures? Originally Posted by bmorrisj is there a way to get the shift cable straight while popped on the SSP, instead of being pulled toward the driver side. this puts a curve in the cable, and side pressure on that plastic sleeve (under the rubber boot). i dont know how, but on the shift cables i just put in, that plastic sleeve gets pushed out from the bracket/grommet and allows the cable to flex and feel sloppy in R 1 3 5. it doesnt do this without the SSP as the cable is going straight in and out. is there a way to rotate the L bracket slightly counter clockwise to get the cable out straight?

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by bmorrisj oh yea.. my shift cable broke from installing the JB ssp.. but that was from my ratchet extension breaking the plastic cable guide when installing the bracket spacers... shortcutting and not popping off the cable caused me 6 months of headache this is a pm correspondence between me and jb.. simple question about the shift cable location

ok sorry i meant this difference haha

[sellers]

I don't remember what exactly the issues were with the TWM, but I remember them having to go through 2 more revisions to get it "working", which is why I stayed away from the TWM in the first place.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by sellers I don't remember what exactly the issues were with the TWM, but I remember them having to go through 2 more revisions to get it "working", which is why I stayed away from the TWM in the first place.

the only thing i can remember about it is that there was 3 different versions of the stock shifter. you can see in my pict theres a little divot just before that vertical screw. the TWM has a hole in the plate to basically alllow for that divot and i dont think every car even had that divot and some diddent have a pre drilled hole in the bottom of the shifter either. so it was prob hard for them to make something all while considering every revision mazda did.

[sellers]

Hm. Well you can throw me on the interested list as this has undoubtedly peaked my interest. As for a warranty/disclaimer...am I on my own completely with this?

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by sellers Hm. Well you can throw me on the interested list as this has undoubtedly peaked my interest. As for a warranty/disclaimer...am I on my own completely with this?

warranty ill back 100% as long as you dont fuck it up yourself. if something happens like the weld breaks or it snaps or the ball becomes loose ill 100% warranty it.

if your being an idiot and fuck up the piece while your installing it i obviously wont take it back.

im also not responsible for anything that happens to your car as a result of using this short throw shifter.

[sellers]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes warranty ill back 100% as long as you dont fuck it up yourself. if something happens like the weld breaks or it snaps or the ball becomes loose ill 100% warranty it. if your being an idiot and fuck up the piece while your installing it i obviously wont take it back. im also not responsible for anything that happens to your car as a result of using this short throw shifter.

Thanks for that eloquently worded disclaimer.

[m4tic]

i completely missed adding my point... that person that broke their shift cable with the ssp probably did the same thing.

when i approached jb, immediately accepted this as my own fault and just informed him of the possible pitfall

for all we know this guy couldve just been angry to cover up his mistake...

[sellers]

Originally Posted by bmorrisj i completely missed adding my point... that person that broke their shift cable with the ssp probably did the same thing. when i approached jb, immediately accepted this as my own fault and just informed him of the possible pitfall for all we know this guy couldve just been angry to cover up his mistake...

And my point was that Jamie still paid for him to get a new shift cable installed.

[m4tic]

dont forget labor to install it is at least $700


maybe i shouldve been a dick and gotten a new/free cable

[bombdotcom]

Is this gonna work on an ms3?



EDIT: my name is brown and so is the shit that makes up my brain

[Caldazar]

interested pending price and final pics of this actual product.

[JDM-P5]

Anthony...add me to the list too.

[cletusb]

The TWM doesn't work the RHD cars (not without pretty much cutting it in half among other mods), any chance this will.

Can provide shifter assembly pics if required

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by cletusb The TWM doesn't work the RHD cars (not without pretty much cutting it in half among other mods), any chance this will. Can provide shifter assembly pics if required

take a buncha picts for me and send em to my email and ill see what i can do.

its my forum name @gmail.com

[marriioo]

can't wait to test it out.

[RichieRichness]

When are you getting these back from weld? Hit me up when you do and we can test fit

[superskaterxes]

ok guys a little update,

the plates are at dustins house but he sadly had a death in the family this week so they are gona be on hold for a few more days. my condolences to him and theres no way i can expect him to work on these at this time.

they did come out nice from the CNC machine!!!

ill keep you guys posted