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Default front mount or upgrade top intercooler

I got 9,000 miles left on the warranty, and wants that's up i would like to upgrade the intercooler. I want to put a front mount intercooler, but I live in Texas and it don't rain much but when it does it pores. Will water mess up the engine. Its my daily car and would like my ms3 to last me for a good while. Any info would help. Thanks
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yes, op, you are a grammatical mess...

why do you think a front mount would mess up the engine in the rain? maybe you're getting fmic and cai confused. even if the front mount were immersed in water, it wouldn't let any into the engine...

go fmic. do it! can't beat $499 installed!
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go air/water to beat the heat.
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My cp-e TMIC worked wonders in this heat. Depends on your ultimate goal for the car.
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if i have to choose, i'd say side mount.
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If you're not doing anything else with the car the get a really good top mount like corksport or ets, if your doing other mods get the cms fmic
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What mileage are you at?

Remember that the powertrain warranty is 6 yrs./60,000 mi.

The 3 yr./30,000 mi. is just the bumper to bumper.
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Keep in mind fmic might give you lower bat's but will cause higher coolant temps. So its a trade off. Just depends on what your goal is.
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My coolant temps are 100% normal
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Originally Posted by SLOWHATCH View Post
Keep in mind fmic might give you lower bat's but will cause higher coolant temps. So its a trade off. Just depends on what your goal is.
My Coolant temps have not been affected in any way whats so ever and that is with 60 plus days of 100 degree days.
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Got an ETS awhile ago an i am pretty happy...running it with a Cobb SRI/TIP, racing beat cat back and Cobb AP. only complaint is that i spend ~$600 on it and then a few days later CP-E released theirs for like ~350....DAMN!!!
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Got an ETS awhile ago an i am pretty happy...running it with a Cobb SRI/TIP, racing beat cat back and Cobb AP. only complaint is that i spend ~$600 on it and then a few days later CP-E released theirs for like ~350....DAMN!!!
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ETS > CPe

And I really want to win the ETS for the October raffle!!
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Whats a boost?

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Slowhatch makes a good point that sometimes, the fmic blocks part of the radiator.

I have slightly higher ect's than pre-fmic installation.

The OP may be concerned with rain due to spark plug location under the tmic.. but I'm not sure.

FWIW, I've never seen anyone who upgraded their intercooler have any sort of problems rain / flood related.
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Whats a boost?

Can someone help?


...and more importantly, what gear does it happen in ???????
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Originally Posted by SKiZ0TT View Post
ETS > CPe

And I really want to win the ETS for the October raffle!!
You have solid proof of this?
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Originally Posted by pzr2874 View Post
You have solid proof of this?
Solid proof? Well let me break out my handy dandy product analysis tool..

My comment is geared to CP-e having problems with a lot of their products for our platform. I personally wouldn't buy CP-e anything, that's the ETS > CPe.
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Ahh, thanks for clarifying. Lookin for real data to compare is all.
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...and more importantly, what gear does it happen in ???????

even more importantly, will a BOV help ?????
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Ahh, thanks for clarifying. Lookin for real data to compare is all.
Might be referring to stuff like this but it looks as though CP-E is trying to fix the problems.

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Just decide on what you want to do with the vehicle. I have had ETS for 2 years now and love it. It gives the most benifit without modification or ricer look. It will take 15 min to install and is idiot proof as far as leaks are concerned. If you are consistantly in stop and go traffic you will still have some heat soak because of sitting on top of the engine with little flow. Other than that TMIC will work fine for most daily aggressive driver's.
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I just got an ETS TMIC and I love it already. Granted, it's winter time here now, but I can already feel a difference in spool time, and boost recovery time b/w shifts. I'm sure it would be the same with a FMIC too -- but I am satisfied...
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Dont feel bad about what you spent bc your shit fits perfect, the cpe does not.
My cp-e fit great. I think I may have gotten the 2nd batch though, after they fixed it
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My cp-e fit great. I think I may have gotten the 2nd batch though, after they fixed it
Nah its been worked out, has always been a great tmic just didn't fit right but all is well now. I had it before I went fmic.
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I figured I would post this here rather than start a new thread, at what point (mods wise) does it make more sense to go FMIC rather than TMIC? I'm only running a COBB SRI right meow and plan on getting an AP soon but other than that I dont plan on doing much else to the engine besides a TIP. I'm guessing TMIC will work for me?
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I figured I would post this here rather than start a new thread, at what point (mods wise) does it make more sense to go FMIC rather than TMIC? I'm only running a COBB SRI right meow and plan on getting an AP soon but other than that I dont plan on doing much else to the engine besides a TIP. I'm guessing TMIC will work for me?
you're fine running a tmic. get the fmic when you go bt.
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That's what I figured, just out of curiosity with my setup would there be any noticeable difference having one vs the other?
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not really, there are different pressure drops and things to consider but given your mod path it wont matter much

an intercooler upgrade is not going to be giving you much gains, i see an intercooler as a supporting mod for when you turn up the boost you can do so safely
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Gotcha, I plan on running an OTS Stage 1 and eventually getting a PERM. This is my DD so I want a bit moar powah but won't be going BT, would it even be worth it to drop $400 on a TMIC. My goal is to make 250+ hp but not really much more than that.
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personally i would get the AP first, then later talk to your perm tuner and see if he thinks a TMIC is necessary for your power goals, i would bet to say he will say it is a good idea since the k04 turns into a flamethrower very quickly, so in short the upgraded intercooler isnt going to be a bad idea, but i would personally get the AP first.
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personally i would get the AP first
That's what I was planning on doing. Thanks for the help!
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Drive to Houston and get the CMS FMIC for $499. that includes the install.
Where the hell did they come from? I'm apprehensive on pulling the trigger on this kit because it's so cheap. Why is it so cheap?
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