PG Manifold

[SLS MS3]

Anyone here get their's yet?

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by SLS MS3 Anyone here get their's yet?

I have. It arrived on Saturday. It goes on with the other stuff this week. The piece looks beautiful.

[Haltech]

Randy, PICS!

[phailerider]

You want pics before the install? It looks just like the pics on the other site when we did the GB.... didnt you ever see them?

I'll tell you this.... Ive got the inlet kit, turbo, chromed out tubular manifold... the heat shield has to go byebye which will make the CS downpipe visible.

All that mess is gonna look gooood soon. Then there will be pics

I cant wait to see that manifold sitting next to/on top of... the divorced wastegate on the downpipe. Plus the inlet pipe wil add some contrast as well. The engine bay is gonna start looking like theres actually been something going on.

[Haltech]

Badass

[Davidb]

Can't wait to see how you like it...

[Jesse MS3GT]

someone get some before(baseline stock preferably) numbers then dyno with these things installed.. Just for some real world numbers.

I am going to baseline my car again at another shop since the shop I did my baseline at closed.. Then put on my ETS TMIC and post up real world gains vs this butt dyno crap lol

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by Jesse MS3GT someone get some before(baseline stock preferably) numbers then dyno with these things installed.. Just for some real world numbers. I am going to baseline my car again at another shop since the shop I did my baseline at closed.. Then put on my ETS TMIC and post up real world gains vs this butt dyno crap lol

my numbers should be interesting...

stock turbo, stock manifold, stock inlet
vs
GT3071, PG manifold, atp inlet

Lotta good that'll give us for the gains on the manifold...lol

[mrlilguy157]

my car won't be as blingin' as randy's, but it should be just as fast if i'm lucky.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Originally Posted by palerider my numbers should be interesting... stock turbo, stock manifold, stock inlet vs GT3071, PG manifold, atp inlet Lotta good that'll give us for the gains on the manifold...lol

At least it will let me know what that combination does lol

[digitaljedi]

Everyone seems to be going with the new turbo kit, no one is worried about a tunning solution for it yet?

I am going to be getting the manifold done for my car next also, it looks so beautiful and makes amazing power per dollar for a freakin manifold. Manifolds never add this kind of power, it always amazes me how much the ms3 loves bolt ons.

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by digitaljedi Everyone seems to be going with the new turbo kit, no one is worried about a tunning solution for it yet? I am going to be getting the manifold done for my car next also, it looks so beautiful and makes amazing power per dollar for a freakin manifold. Manifolds never add this kind of power, it always amazes me how much the ms3 loves bolt ons.

I dont think youre going to need tuning if you keep the boost below 18 psi. PG "tuned" their gt30 car, at 18psi.... and all they did was pull fuel on the stock pump for bigger numbers.

The atp car is making 18 psi.....370-380 hp and blowing out the clutch with good a/fs on the stock ecu. Fuel cut hits in 4th and 5th sometimes... but thats on the stock fp.

I think people are turning up the boost to quick on the cars that popped or else there were other issues at play. My turbos going on with 15 psi and we'll carefully turn it up from there.

[mrlilguy157]

Originally Posted by palerider I dont think youre going to need tuning if you keep the boost below 18 psi. PG "tuned" their gt30 car, at 18psi.... and all they did was pull fuel on the stock pump for bigger numbers. The atp car is making 18 psi.....370-380 hp and blowing out the clutch with good a/fs on the stock ecu. Fuel cut hits in 4th and 5th sometimes... but thats on the stock fp. I think people are turning up the boost to quick on the cars that popped or else there were other issues at play. My turbos going on with 15 psi and we'll carefully turn it up from there.

x2 - pale has a nice handle on things it looks like.

i'm just glad i don't have that manifold to install - i can't handle anymore hurt fingers. my engine bay looks so empty right now... lol. no manifold, turbo, battery, inlet pipe, ECU, intercooler, bov, etc. its all goneeeeeee.

i drank coolant for the first time today - i liked it.

[kosh]

I'm still waiting for mine. Haven't got tracking info yet. I think it is getting delivered to my parent's house because I didn't pay attention during the paypal invoice and got it sent to my old address. Only 2 hours away and I need to give my folks a visit soon anyway. Hope it is here/there this weekend!

[digitaljedi]

Ahh that is really great then, can't wait to see what kind of numbers you guys put down.

[Laloosh]

Man i sure hope you guys are right when it comes to this BT and tunning problem.

Good luck and be smart about it...which im sure you guys know already lol

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by palerider I dont think youre going to need tuning if you keep the boost below 18 psi. PG "tuned" their gt30 car, at 18psi.... and all they did was pull fuel on the stock pump for bigger numbers. The atp car is making 18 psi.....370-380 hp and blowing out the clutch with good a/fs on the stock ecu. Fuel cut hits in 4th and 5th sometimes... but thats on the stock fp. I think people are turning up the boost to quick on the cars that popped or else there were other issues at play. My turbos going on with 15 psi and we'll carefully turn it up from there.

So you have a turbo that is capable of running upwards of 30 psi and you have it running at 18? That is a damn shame. I blew out my clutch at 7500 miles and that was on the stock turbo. The only real way I can see anyone really pushing this big turbo thing is "if" someone comes up with a 5th injector type thing, and even that will be pushing it. We have 4 2.5 GPH WI nossles in our set up running pure meth and the AFR's still go lean from time to time.

[ptperformance]

We will have 2 PTP/DNP manifolds here this week. I should be installing it on my personal car with the big wheel stock turbo along with the pump upgrade (fingers crossed we get it all done and ready by then). The full tubular units will be on our site in the next week.

[Laloosh]

i think ptp will official claim the ms3 market lol

[andre0121]

and here i thought why save money if the market for the ms3 is stuck...f%$#........new status: saving lol

[SLS MS3]

Batch 2 is shipping!

[ptperformance]

Any pictures of this thing yet?

[SLS MS3]

here are a couple

Originally Posted by thabigo

[driver311]

Originally Posted by Laloosh i think ptp will official claim the ms3 market lol

I think Pg will still sell alot of parts for the ms3 but John has alot of sweet things in the works and Im guessing will take off very nicely.

I cant wait to get the intake manifold and turbo on the dyno to show you guys what kind of sweet numbers just a wheel upgrade can do. Im guessing good gains with the intake mani also.

John, did you get that stuff out yet?????

[Laloosh]

Well pg doesnt really make that many parts, they push a shit load of others people's parts. For all i know pg and ptp will unite.

[numbnuts22715]

Originally Posted by driver311 I think Pg will still sell alot of parts for the ms3 but John has alot of sweet things in the works and Im guessing will take off very nicely. I cant wait to get the intake manifold and turbo on the dyno to show you guys what kind of sweet numbers just a wheel upgrade can do. Im guessing good gains with the intake mani also. John, did you get that stuff out yet?????

Are you going to dyno them separetely?
A stock turbo with a bigger wheel would be the perfect thing for me.

[silverspeed03]

The inside of that manifold looks rough. Anyone have plans to smooth it out?

[driver311]

Originally Posted by silverspeed03 The inside of that manifold looks rough. Anyone have plans to smooth it out?

Thats what ptp is sending me to test out. Ported, cleaned up with a few other little tricks john at ptp is gonna try. Should be sweet. If we could get 10whp out of a ported manifold that would be sweet. Ill be sure to keep everyone posted on the progress.

[Laloosh]

im jealous

[Mellman]

Originally Posted by driver311 Thats what ptp is sending me to test out. Ported, cleaned up with a few other little tricks john at ptp is gonna try. Should be sweet. If we could get 10whp out of a ported manifold that would be sweet. Ill be sure to keep everyone posted on the progress.

They're sending you a ported PG exhaust manifold?

I was thinking it looked pretty rough inside and i should prolly spend some time porting it before i get it coated.

[SLS MS3]

Originally Posted by Laloosh im jealous

+1

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by silverspeed03 The inside of that manifold looks rough. Anyone have plans to smooth it out?

We smooth out the DNP units when we get them.

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by Mellman They're sending you a ported PG exhaust manifold? I was thinking it looked pretty rough inside and i should prolly spend some time porting it before i get it coated.

NO, ported intake manifold and turbine housing for him to test.

[silverspeed03]

Originally Posted by ptperformance We smooth out the DNP units when we get them.

How much do you charge for the porting?

[SLS MS3]

I got my PG Manifold today. Still no car to put it on tho.

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by silverspeed03 How much do you charge for the porting?

Start a post in our section, I will get the details up in there.

[Speedy3]

I'm going to do the CP-e DP and PG mani at the same time. Does anyone know if the stock DP will come out from the top if the stock mani is off?

[SLS MS3]

Yes it can but it's still alot easier to pull it out from the bottom than the top unless you take out the turbo, too. I won't say it impossible, but I don't see how you could easily get the CPE DP to go in from the top.

[4DRHTRD]

I'll have to see if he'll make one with a T3/T4 flange so I can run a different turbo (AGP) I'm not going down another GT turbo route.

[Speedy3]

Originally Posted by SLS MS3 Yes it can but it's still alot easier to pull it out from the bottom than the top unless you take out the turbo, too. I won't say it impossible, but I don't see how you could easily get the CPE DP to go in from the top.

DP:
Ah, thanks anyways, I pulled it out the bottom. Instructions never said to completely remove that damn stock cat mount. Also, those damn nuts on the inside were hell. Shit all were hell until I got the deep 14 mm. I lost an 8mm socket and 3/8 to 1/4 adapter somewhere under the engine. I don't know where the hell it landed.

Mani:
Shit, my frieken hands are all gashed an I can't type this shit. Got one turbo/mani bolt off and one semi rounded turbo/mani bolt and I think I'll finish tommorow. Right now the remaining 3 turbo/mani bolts are soaking in break free for the night.

Any suggestions on the semi-rounded turbo/mani bolt? My new 14mm grips it, but I don't want to round it anymore.