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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score 189K miles bought it for $3200. Starting off with a drop in build with Pu pistons and Manley Rods. Then I'll use an old ass MS6 K04. We'll see what I do next. Some gum but not too bad.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score There's already two people doing crazy shit on these around here. But I guess I can take credit for being the first Murican doing one. At least here. Seen the light and modding CX7 for more power Big turbo build CX-7 :P
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Making slow progress. Fucked up VVT looks fucked. Spring and some shards were left in the oil pick up tube. Replacing with a PPT unit I still have laying around. Pistons were a lil caked up which is ok for a 185K engine. Con rod bearings looked perfect. I am weak so my 1/2" breaker bar and little hands weren't able to loosen some of the head studs. In spite of said muscular weakness I am prepared for contingencies and happily own a 3/4" mammoth breaker bar which was taken out of hibernation solely for this task. I almost never get to use this most excellent apparatus of mechanical beauty. It is a true manly man tool and feeling it in one's hands revitalizes much needed testosterone depletion which is regrettably occurring at an increasingly rapid rate lately. Once the Manley rods and pu pistons were in the rest was pretty standard. Oh and although this is more of a low cost low expecation build I did take the time to install a triple-check-valve-blowby-evacuation-catch-can. Ah yes and for engine brake in I slapped a rare earth magnet to the oil pan plug. Let's see if it catches some shit.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Its like watching Bob Ross rebuilding an engine...just like a breeze ![]() Eager to see what the magnet will catch during the breakin...and how are you gonna do the breakin (interested to know your method since I will replace the pistons soon)
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score For engine brake in I will use cheap mineral oil for the first 400 miles or so. As far as driving I'll just do a few set-gear accelerations and deceleration in progressively higher RPMs. Nothing too fancy schmancy.
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I know you should not be baby the car when doing the break-in, but the methods are endless...the only common point of all the methods I have read about, is to first change the oil at the 20 miles mark... I am machining a special tool to be able to hone/deglaze the cylinder with the engine still in the car (the tool is to contain the nasty stuff from the hone...just to be sure I dont do the same mistake as @Dano; )...I want the freakin ring to seal perfectly, so I will do everything necessary to get the job right...that includes the break-in method
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The tool will be slided in the cylinder and hopefully rest on the bottom of the cylinder (there is a small step on the casting after the cylinder sleeve...if my estimation are of, some shim will be used to rest the honing cap on the crank) The tool is like a piston with o-ring...the top part of the tool is just for sliding the cap smoothly to the bottom of the cylinder The top of the engine block will be covered by a kind of torque plate to prevent stuff from getting in the block coolant and oil ports After honing/deglazing, the cylinder bore will be cleaned before removal of the honing cap About 1/2 inch of the cylinder bore wont be honed/deglazed at the bottom, but this wont matters because the ring dont go that low Wish I didnt have to go throught that shit, but thats what happens when you do stupid tuning
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Holy shit brah that's a lot of work for trying to prevent debris from getting flung around by the honing stones. I found that if you use a cordless drill on low speed the ball hone won't really fling anything around. I covered everything in rags around the crank and deck and never found debris that was dislodged from the ball hone landing on the rags. It's certainly a neat idea. But like my aunty would say:
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NAH...10$ chunk of 6061-T6 AL...about an hour of fun on the lathe...thats a low price for peace of mind
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score First oil change. Everything look honkey dorey. Replaced the bearings on all 4 corners. The rear bearings are in non-serviceable hubs. Pretty neat. Cost a shit load from Mazda so I hais from ebay.On the front I used Timken.
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How dare you even question it. It has a dragon penis picture. Not ghey at all. Well may be. Ok pretty ghey.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score So the car has 192K miles now. I think the torque converter is kaput. ordered a tranny with 80K on it for $370 delivered to my work place. Time to mount some trannies. @WetzMS3; this is what I dream you look like. Sophisticated but also delicate.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score This fucking little build is turning into an anal lightning bolt. Swapped out the tranny and torque converter and the sluggishness problem in low rpm still persists. Had a lot of blowby so I checked compression and it's low on cyl 3. Numbers were 190/190/150/190. Fuckin-a. This is really the first engine ever I've had to deal with low compression in a cylinder. Is it possible that the low rpm sluggishness and hesitation is due to the low compression? I can't see how that could be so noticeable but unless the torque converter on the second tranny was also toast I am sort running out of ideas. Obviously I've checked everything else such as spark plugs, fuel pressure and boost leaks. What a joy schlapping the torque converter onto the flywheel. The only way to get at the bolts is by removing the starter and squeezing and deepwell wrench into the bell housing. I have a nice lil surprise though. Brembo calipers 7,8 and 9 fit the bolt pattern of the knuckle. The 330mm brembo rotors for the 7,8 and 9 are too small. But the EVO X rotors fit almost perfectly. The pads for the 7,8,9 and 10 are the same the only difference is the EVO 10 ears on the calipers are longer.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Ok. Let me run a few more tests and see what happens. As far as mods, there is nothing except the forged rods and gen2 pistons. I went back to the stock turbo thinking that might fix the hesitation / sluggishness but it didnt. The car will build boost at 2000-2500 rpm as per dashhawk but it just doesen't get going. It stutters. Fuel trims are ok and AFR also.When it hits 3k rpm or so it then sort of jumps and gets going. That low rpm torque you get just isnt there. I need to get the laptop going with Versatune to take logs just havent done that yet.
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