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just wondering if you guys had any heads up on a cp-e sri? well any info is good thanks for the time.
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just wondering if you guys had any heads up on a cp-e sri? well any info is good thanks for the time.
We sure are! People have been asking us to make a shorty intake and we finally pulled the trigger. The intake will be powdercoated aluminum, it will feature our exclusive CNC turned MAF housing and airflow straightener, and we'll even have some silicone color options for the guys that want something other than black.

We're hoping to have these guys available in the next couple weeks, and I'll post some pics as soon as the prototype is finished.
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We sure are! People have been asking us to make a shorty intake and we finally pulled the trigger. The intake will be powdercoated aluminum, it will feature our exclusive CNC turned MAF housing and airflow straightener, and we'll even have some silicone color options for the guys that want something other than black.

We're hoping to have these guys available in the next couple weeks, and I'll post some pics as soon as the prototype is finished.
You know what ? Kudos to you guys for listening to the community and giving them another option. I have to admit, I dont have any of your parts on my car... at least yet (nothing personal I just havent gotten anything) but I can give credit when credit is due. I give you guys my respect for listening. THNX.
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Will it work for the 3 and the 6?

Would you make it go to the turbo inlet?
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any chance this will have an option for a larger MAF housing?
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Originally Posted by ATE BALLER View Post
Will it work for the 3 and the 6?

Would you make it go to the turbo inlet?
It'll work for both cars but it won't include the turbo inlet. We're working on a silicone inlet that'll work with any SRI/CAI, as well as GT-series turbos.

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any chance this will have an option for a larger MAF housing?
Actually yes! I'm working on a 3.25" and 3.5" housing option as I type this.
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this is good news !
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cant wait!!!! i would def take my cobb sri off to run the cp-e piece!! let see some pics boys!!
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cant wait!!!! i would def take my cobb sri off to run the cp-e piece!! let see some pics boys!!
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Great to hear!
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hah! so our constant subtle hints at it the whole weekend helped? This is great news as most people want the Short Ram.

And ATE they are looking into making turbo inlets also... I talked with Anthony about it when I was there.
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very intrested in the inlet plus bigger maf housing!
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I'd be down for the bigger housing. Would it by chance be including an MAF scaler like your V6 intake, or will we have to tune for that with the standback or the like?

Only way I could get the inlet is if it could be 3.5 all the way to the turbo, at least as an option. That's gonna be the inlet size of my new turtle and you can't really use a coupler on a silicone tube, lol.
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Originally Posted by ATE BALLER View Post
I'd be down for the bigger housing. Would it by chance be including an MAF scaler like your V6 intake, or will we have to tune for that with the standback or the like?

Only way I could get the inlet is if it could be 3.5 all the way to the turbo, at least as an option. That's gonna be the inlet size of my new turtle and you can't really use a coupler on a silicone tube, lol.
No, we're actually calibrating the new housings on a flow bench and are editing the MAF transfer function within the ECU. It'll just be another option for our FCF.

The problem with big MAF housings like 3.5" is that idle quality goes to hell when the housing gets bigger because the signal gets noisier. So we're going to try to make a 3.5" housing work, but it may not idle all that great. If we have to we can try bumping up the idle speed though...
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Have you thought of putting a partial cone in before the sensor, directing X% of the airflow through it? That wouldn't be restrictive enough to impede on high-flow situations, but it would keep the right amount of air going through the sensor.

Like this. (b being the tip of the sensor, v being the cone)
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Have you thought of putting a partial cone in before the sensor, directing X% of the airflow through it? That wouldn't be restrictive enough to impede on high-flow situations, but it would keep the right amount of air going through the sensor.

Like this. (b being the tip of the sensor, v being the cone)
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You are really skewing the way the Maf reads the signal at that point. Some major recalibrations would be needed. On top of that, at low intake velocities, I'm not sure if that would help.
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Have you thought of putting a partial cone in before the sensor, directing X% of the airflow through it? That wouldn't be restrictive enough to impede on high-flow situations, but it would keep the right amount of air going through the sensor.

Like this. (b being the tip of the sensor, v being the cone)
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Like Ford MAF's they have a sample tube for the air and I was running a big ol 90mm on my T-bird and it ran great with it.
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Like Ford MAF's they have a sample tube for the air and I was running a big ol 90mm on my T-bird and it ran great with it.
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Have you thought of putting a partial cone in before the sensor, directing X% of the airflow through it? That wouldn't be restrictive enough to impede on high-flow situations, but it would keep the right amount of air going through the sensor.

Like this. (b being the tip of the sensor, v being the cone)
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We could do that but I honestly think the diameter is overkill for anything anyone is building these days. The 3.25" MAF is good for over 1000cfm, or just under 700hp before the sensor maxes out. I guess if guys really wanted bigger we could do it though.


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Like Ford MAF's they have a sample tube for the air and I was running a big ol 90mm on my T-bird and it ran great with it.

Was that a C&L piece? I used one of those on an old Mustang of mine and I didn't have quite as much success
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We could do that but I honestly think the diameter is overkill for anything anyone is building these days. The 3.25" MAF is good for over 1000cfm, or just under 700hp before the sensor maxes out. I guess if guys really wanted bigger we could do it though.





Was that a C&L piece? I used one of those on an old Mustang of mine and I didn't have quite as much success
no I was using a ford racing lightning unit calibrated for larger injectors.
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It worked fine on the evos until the ecu got cracked. People still run intakes like that though without any tuning. The sensor just has to see a specific percentage of the air going through the intake.

Another option that the subby guys do is to go to a push-through sensor and put it in the cold pipe. Lets them run whatever size intake they want. Hell, even an open turbo inlet with no filter. I think the SRT guys are doing that too now.
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cp-e i know this is far fetched and hard to call but any idea on a rough price or did you set a price goal comming into it you can share?
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OK, I did a bit of research. According to the vendors on NASIOC, The Denso 5V MAF sensor that they have (same as ours I beleive) is good for up to a 3.25" diameter pipe with a recalibration. 3.5" gets too hectic. BUT, it also happens to work BETTER as a blow-thru MAF, when placed in the cold pipe. I think I'm gonna try that out with the specifications they gave me to see how it works.
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Hopefully soon, cause I'm itching to buy something lol.
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Can we get a rough idea of when this will be available and the cost?
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Ive got a 120mm MAF on the truck thats recal'd and has no idle issues. Stock is 90mm
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Ive got a 120mm MAF on the truck thats recal'd and has no idle issues. Stock is 90mm
damn that's huge! I figured the 90 was enough for an NA build 4.6 SOHC with DP nitrous.
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damn that's huge! I figured the 90 was enough for an NA build 4.6 SOHC with DP nitrous.
Running a 3.4 litre screw blower and nitrous. Need the metering. 90mm was pegged at 526 hp. I only needed to goto 100mm but they were out of stock so i had to do the 120mm. Since its a pull through MAF setup, doesn't matter in my case or a 03/04 Cobra.

On the Mazda, if CP-e could design a sample tube, it will relieve the idle syndrome for a big meter. As pointed out, Fords use this and their are no idle issues because of it. It will add a bit more restriction in the system however.

You can also convert it to a blow through design on the cold pipe for those big turbo guys, but it would require bigger pipes and an extension harness.

C&L had a smart idea with interchangeable sample tubes ( for injector sizes ) but their engineering was pretty pathetic and caused some drivability issues as you built the car up. This could be tuned out changing the MAF scaler in most of the available software out for the EEC-IV. CPe is able to do the same with their standback so it might be a pretty neat R&D project.

Either way, a new meter will be needed for these higher power guys. You can only tweak the stock MAF so much. A 3" wouldn't be a bad starting point for them.
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in the first post they said they hope to have them done in the next couple of weeks.
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I am interested in this piece...cp-e ftw!

I wonder how this will compare to cobb SRI? 4.5 inch filter ID?

more information on the silicone turbo inlet please!
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im getting the cp-e sri for sure. CP-E FTMFW!!
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fuck me i would be interested too if reasonably priced...
also interested in the turbo inlet, would like to see how the recirculation hose would meet into it, and see a good inlet that could be used with stock battery.
big turbo bolt up abilities would have me sold on the inlet!!!
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interested in the sri and turbo inlet.
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Can't wait to see the SRI.
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how soon can we be teased with pics!!!
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Perfect timing for CP-e to bring this to market IMO. The Cobb unit so many people are waiting on seems cursed with production issues. People seem to be lining up to buy them too. I know I've been waiting for a quality SRI since Dec of 06 for the speed6. Priced even close to what the Cobb intake is and I'll be one of the first to order.
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Can you give us a date when this will be available to buy? Also when will the cp-e speed 3 engine mounts be back in stock?
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