cpe fmic and cpe dp in my possession

[phillyb]

YES...that's all for now. getting this shit installed on sunday.
dp is catless.
for the fmic installation, is there anyone here who didn't buy new power steering fluid. any way to NOT have to deal with that?

[gsrtype1]

badass! take pics of the install

[phillyb]

no

[phillyb]

LOLOLOL

[bioevolve]

Looks like you are into some monies now, just buy it syndrome eh? lol.

[phillyb]

hahaha, good deals syndrome. i sold a bunch of shit to pull the trigger on this

[btkrausen]

i bought new fluid. The way you take it off, its hard to catch it all. Its cheap, just do it. Just remember that when you fill it up, its going to suck it down really fast, since the lines will no longer be full. Start it, let it suck down the top off, and stop the car. Fill it back up until it stops sucking it down.

[xcoldricex]

since you've already installed the cobb on someone else's... just wanted to hear your impressions of both when you're done.

[Lymerock]

Originally Posted by phillyb i sold a bunch of shit to pull the trigger on this

hmm got more? im running low

[phillyb]

:phillyb:

[danesti]

phillyb... enjoy the shit out of these parts like i know you will..
and have fun tomorrow.. even though i cant make that shit... im stoked for all you guys..

sometime next week or so you should come down to my place and we should blaze/install some of my goodies..
and well make doggman come...
and babs...
and whoever man...

[Haltech]

Originally Posted by btkrausen i bought new fluid. The way you take it off, its hard to catch it all. Its cheap, just do it. Just remember that when you fill it up, its going to suck it down really fast, since the lines will no longer be full. Start it, let it suck down the top off, and stop the car. Fill it back up until it stops sucking it down.

You also need to bleed the system by turning the wheel to the left and right several times while filling it.

[Laloosh]

not to be a complete dick, but wasnt there a donation thread to fix your shit like a month ago?

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by Laloosh not to be a complete dick, but wasnt there a donation thread to fix your shit like a month ago?

yeah and it was fixed. that was the whole point, so he could actually do something with his car down the line.

and we understand you cant help be a complete dick so no introductory apologies needed.

[phillyb]

Originally Posted by Laloosh not to be a complete dick, but wasnt there a donation thread to fix your shit like a month ago?

indeed...the only things that make you a dick are your cries for attention and the disclaimers and prefaces to your statements

[bykeryder4life]

It was just a question he asked, no hard feelings. Everyone gets so bent when Laloosh comments I love it. Phillyb you got really lucky that theres alot of really cool dudes on this forum that helped out to get the car up and going. now he got some money (laloosh) and he is getting on with the mods

[rodrigo]

every gym needs a punching bag!

[Laloosh]

so the forums pay to fix your fuck up, and you spend money that your suppose to on fixing your shit to buy aftermarket parts....fucken joke

[Renzokuken]

Originally Posted by Laloosh so the forums pay to fix your fuck up, and you spend money that your suppose to on fixing your shit to buy aftermarket parts....fucken joke

PHIL, youre a great guy, I got nothim but love for ya, but I have to agree with this comment somewhat. You didnt have money to fix your car, but you have money for mods... IDK, wierd. Dont hate me dude, It just makes sense.

[phillyb]

i sold shit i didn't want to sell to buy parts at incredible deals.
i see your point, though.

[rodrigo]

u guys r retarded, we got donations going for this guy......with them his car was FIXED like 1.5 months ago. now with his own money and deals he is modding up...... was there a fucken 5 year penalty on modding that was stipulated. douchebags........

[kingpin748]

Don't drink and post. You misread things.

[phillyb]

lenny was the culprit in the donating. it was his idea and he was one of the highest donators.

NOW, on to this fucking installation. FUCK THIS SHIT.
the downpipe is a nice fucking piece. very high quality. it went it...shit's got hangers. it fits really nicely, and it made incredibly well.

the fucking fmic was a huge bitch and pain in the ass. honestly, that was a tremendous amount of work, with replacing the radiator hose, attaching the power steering thing whatever...i'm not sure if it's worth it.

the piping is ok, i like that the hot side end tank being on the driver's side of the vehicle, and i like the piping diameter. i really don't like the location of the valve, it's so close to the throttle body, wtf is up with that? leaves very option for running meth AFTER the valve.

the engineering that went into the cpe fmic seems overdone.
WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO REPLACE A RADIATOR HOSE?
WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO HAVE A NEW POWER STEERING THINGY MAJIGGER?
NONE OF THE OTHER KITS REQUIRE YOU TO DO THIS SHIT.

this isn't worth being a fanboi, consider me out.

with all of the thought cpe put into this kit regarding fitment, i still had a few problems and quirks.
one problem i noticed is that the piping coming from the cold end tank hits the under tray when putting that piece back on. does anyone else have this problem?

all in all, i would recommend the downpipe.
i would not recommend this front mount to anyone. it was a huge pain in the ass, dirty, and frustrating.

[Laloosh]

The radiator hose is there so you can run a cpe cai.
The bov is where its at because it wont fit anywhere else on the cold pipe, unless u pull a cobb and raise the thing 6 inches.
The power steering thing is a bonus, there have been reports of regular 3s overheating their power streering. With this new radiator you simply wont overheat it if your autoxing or doing aggressive driving for long periods of time

Try installing the kit sober, it fits perfect

[mdogg]

Originally Posted by phillyb i really don't like the location of the valve, it's so close to the throttle body, wtf is up with that?

immediately before the TB on the cold pipe is the ideal placement of the BPV/BOV.... CP-e undoubtedly did not design it so that people would "like the location"...

[danesti]

Originally Posted by Laloosh The radiator hose is there so you can run a cpe cai. The bov is where its at because it wont fit anywhere else on the cold pipe, unless u pull a cobb and raise the thing 6 inches. The power steering thing is a bonus, there have been reports of regular 3s overheating their power streering. With this new radiator you simply wont overheat it if your autoxing or doing aggressive driving for long periods of time Try installing the kit sober, it fits perfect

tell that to the all of us who where there...
shit fits obviously but that install was pretty lame..

hope my ms6 kit goes on easier

[Laloosh]

what exactly was the problem?

[rodrigo]

problem is simple. what does powersteering fluid and coolant have to do with the cooling of incoming air into the engine? I hope CPE doesnt make front end brake kits cuz u might have to drop the rear seats and tailight assemblies.
shit poor design, usually the best desing is the simplest one.....this one clearly a failure!!! (then again, these r the guys that tell you to drop the front bumper to install their tow plate,[btw a niece piece]but clearly someone over there is overthinking himself into a stroke.

[Laloosh]

Like i said, the coolant hose is there so you can fit a cpe cai with a cpe fmic. You got the hotpipe, the cold pipe and a 3 in intake going thorugh there. You dont like it, buy something else

The tow plate says to remove the bumper so you dont fuck your shit up. You can get a lot more tq on the bolt if the bumper is removed. Would you prefer instructions with short cuts that have the potential of fucking your oem equipment up?

[mdogg]

Originally Posted by lenny127 problem is simple. what does powersteering fluid and coolant have to do with the cooling of incoming air into the engine? I hope CPE doesnt make front end brake kits cuz u might have to drop the rear seats and tailight assemblies. shit poor design, usually the best desing is the simplest one.....this one clearly a failure!!! (then again, these r the guys that tell you to drop the front bumper to install their tow plate,[btw a niece piece]but clearly someone over there is overthinking himself into a stroke.

Where is the Lenny127 FMIC kit for sale? Apparently you have all of the best ideas and have done extensive R&D to properly engineer the kit before coming to market - for proper performance, fitment, and price!

[rodrigo]

I buy shit that makes sense, tow plate is an example of good engineering, uses existing mounting point and is the least intrusive to anything else.(as far as torquing that shaft, please, plenty of room to do that. Makes about as much sense as pulling the motor to change plugs.

and me thinks I dont need to be an expert on mexican food to tell you Taco Bell is shit, thats my R&D. By the way , I get mine custome made by Cobb........... fits without having to relocate anything.... or maybe they were just paying attention to what they were doing and isn't custom for just my car but all ms3's.

[phailerider]

wah,wah,wah. the first time i installed one of these it took us 3 hours.

the second time, it took 2 hours start to finish. and that included a cpe cai that we had to make fit to a atp inlet.

the turboxs kit included a power steering upgrade as well. i think common sense says if youre going to do it... do it right. there is no question that you all seemed to be working against yourselves. the bottom pipe will bump the tray if positioned a certain way... just reposition it. we had the same problem and 5 minutes later it was fixed.

my feeling is that someone there made a comment about overengineering the second they got a little ps fluid on their clean hands and the rest of the time was spent bitching...lol

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by lenny127 By the way , I get mine custome made by Cobb........... fits without having to relocate anything.... or maybe they were just paying attention to what they were doing and isn't custom for just my car but all ms3's.

If Cobbs intercooler fits without relocating anything, upgrading the ps cooling, makes more power, and goes in under 2 hours.... then kudos. Buy it... but wailing about a wonderful kit that upgrades two systems instead of one, installs easily, and makes PROVEN power....is weak. It was a cobb jerkfest if i can guess based on who was there. Ive had CPE jerkfests so i can guess what went on there.

If you want to make this thread about the comparison between Cobb and CPE... and "over"engineering and "under". Parts "working" or parts "not working"... then we can do that too. Is that what this really is all about?

[rodrigo]

fanboii to the rescue!!!!

philly b bought a product that happens to be made by CPE,if he would have gotten the same deal by purchasing a different brand he would have done that as well. We were all there to see its glory.....it was like an 80 year old womans fart actually. You got a vested interest in CPE s success so you are about as objective as me in a buffet. You don't like that deal with it. We all use products that get reviewed and feedback is given to either promote the product or vent one's frustrations over the problems encountered. If you really believe that a single company is incapable of making a product here and there that doesn't meet the expectations of the customer that bought it, then sadly you've been sniffing cpe's packing tape too long. This was such a case and it happened to be witnessed by at least 8 other ms3-ms6 owners. World is full of dissapointments...sad to say.

[kingpin748]

What am I missing here? You guys said it fits and that it's good quality.

If you didn't want one with a PS cooler then why buy it?

If the only other complaint is the BPV placement what are you going to do? That the only legitimate complaint I've seen and nobody else has a problem with it..

Originally Posted by lenny127 me thinks I dont need to be an expert on mexican food to tell you Taco Bell is shit, thats my R&D.

LOL

[Laloosh]

so inconcluisoin the cpe fmic is a disappiontmetn because it upgrades teh power steering cooler and because 8 people couldnt figure out how to twist a pipe 5 degrees?

[rodrigo]

dont forget the one eyed pirate look....my favorite. and it was 6 degrees!!!!!!

[phillyb]

Originally Posted by Laloosh The radiator hose is there so you can run a cpe cai. The bov is where its at because it wont fit anywhere else on the cold pipe, unless u pull a cobb and raise the thing 6 inches. The power steering thing is a bonus, there have been reports of regular 3s overheating their power streering. With this new radiator you simply wont overheat it if your autoxing or doing aggressive driving for long periods of time Try installing the kit sober, it fits perfect

haha. i was sober, and it all went well, just thought it was a bit much for an fmic. it could have been simpler.

Originally Posted by palerider wah,wah,wah. the first time i installed one of these it took us 3 hours. the second time, it took 2 hours start to finish. and that included a cpe cai that we had to make fit to a atp inlet. the turboxs kit included a power steering upgrade as well. i think common sense says if youre going to do it... do it right. there is no question that you all seemed to be working against yourselves. the bottom pipe will bump the tray if positioned a certain way... just reposition it. we had the same problem and 5 minutes later it was fixed. my feeling is that someone there made a comment about overengineering the second they got a little ps fluid on their clean hands and the rest of the time was spent bitching...lol

i have no experience with power steering fluid. my hands had been dirty. and no one except kevin was talking shit until we all realized that this was a pain in the ass. (go figure )

Originally Posted by palerider If Cobbs intercooler fits without relocating anything, upgrading the ps cooling, makes more power, and goes in under 2 hours.... then kudos. Buy it... but wailing about a wonderful kit that upgrades two systems instead of one, installs easily, and makes PROVEN power....is weak. It was a cobb jerkfest if i can guess based on who was there. Ive had CPE jerkfests so i can guess what went on there. If you want to make this thread about the comparison between Cobb and CPE... and "over"engineering and "under". Parts "working" or parts "not working"... then we can do that too. Is that what this really is all about?

well, i was 100% unbiased until i started disconnecting hoses. i understood that shit would run down and get me wet. that was not my problem, it's just too much for me. i'm not going to turn this thread into anything regarding cpe and cobb and i hope it stays that way. i don't give two shits about that. all i know is that i need help.

i need help with t3h power steering. please help me. i have no power steering right now. this might be as simple as adding more fluid, but i want to make sure i do it correctly.
the two lines coming off of the power steering cooler...does it matter which hose goes to which line?
i took the top one from the oem power steering thing and made that the top one on the cpe thing. then i did that on the bottom.
soooooo...when we tried filling the power steering fluid reservoir, the pump made horrible sounds...is that just air?
i tried turning it back and forth and back and forth to get rid of the air, but it seems like it was all for nought.
when i was turning the wheels (mind you, the car was still jacked), it felt really loose, leading me to believe power steering wasn't in fact hooked up correctly. should i switch the lines?
OR should i just try to fill the power steering reservoir and turn the wheels back and forth?

please please please help

[phillyb]

Originally Posted by Laloosh so inconcluisoin the cpe fmic is a disappiontmetn because it upgrades teh power steering cooler and because 8 people couldnt figure out how to twist a pipe 5 degrees?

i'm not concerned with the pipe on the bottom. i just mentioned it.
the valve's placement leaves very little option for meth unless you tap the coupler or the throttle body or the intake manifold. i wanted to tap for meth on the cold pipe after the valve.

[Laloosh]

unless your running vta, u can tap for meth just fine....im running vta and meth on the cpe fmic. yea it sprays a lil when i let off after going wot, but like i said, if were to run recirc, spraying tiny particles of meth pre turbo will do nothing but help