Palerider update thread.... 400, 450, 500whp here we come

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by Superstretch18 LOL, I made a request for this yesterday right before the server crashed. I thought maybe your massive list killed the forum's bandwidth! :p

personally...i havent had this car on the road enough to justify the idiocy of what ive done. this is a car for all of us. i really do hope everybody feels that way. many years from now the memories of this fucking thing wont touch the memories of what its meant to own it and be a part of this community. thats the only way i can justify this shit to myself. that and the fact that i sling a few parts out of it.

Originally Posted by spheed3 Dyno on valentines day eh?....I'd be hung lol. Your black valve cover is awesome by the way I just noticed that...

my wife is very practical. and truly, if not for her, this car wouldnt exist. We have a good marriage because she allows this nonsense with only a small amount of hassle. To this day her greatest complaints are...
1. its too loud
2. she thinks its ridiculous.... that i bought the gti, and have had a rental dodge caliber with maryland plates parked in the driveway for the last 3 weeks.

I'll give her a kiss before i leave. She was the winning lottery ticket. And shockingly, with the four kids in tow..... still hot as hell.

[badams118]

Originally Posted by palerider this is a car for all of us.

QFT. We are all cheering you on, brother.

[willie23]

sick ass list you have!!!

[Demi]

Originally Posted by palerider personally...i havent had this car on the road enough to justify the idiocy of what ive done. this is a car for all of us. i really do hope everybody feels that way. many years from now the memories of this fucking thing wont touch the memories of what its meant to own it and be a part of this community. thats the only way i can justify this shit to myself. that and the fact that i sling a few parts out of it. my wife is very practical. and truly, if not for her, this car wouldnt exist. We have a good marriage because she allows this nonsense with only a small amount of hassle. To this day her greatest complaints are... 1. its too loud 2. she thinks its ridiculous.... that i bought the gti, and have had a rental dodge caliber with maryland plates parked in the driveway for the last 3 weeks. I'll give her a kiss before i leave. She was the winning lottery ticket. And shockingly, with the four kids in tow..... still hot as hell.

No worries, like we discussed, if she leaves you over the 3 i will marry you, and then everyone wins..........i think. I think we might have to leave our home state of NC for this one though...they frown on that bromance shit. Lol keep up the good work randy.

[buddhabum]

Quick question...

How close is your medievel mani to your alternator? The reason I ask is one thing I have noticed during my build is with my Top-mounted turbo, being sexy as shit, the 1st and 2nd runners are super close to my Alternator plastic. It's really hard plastic and I would imagine it has to be pretty resistant to high temps, but fabbed a heat shield that would sit between the two just in case. I really only have the stock mani as a reference to how close it was to the alternator, but I was wondering if you guys were even worried bout it...

Anyone else out there with CPBoost Top mounted turbo? SSinstaller? Thoughts?

[MarkyMark]

Originally Posted by buddhabum Quick question... How close is your medievel mani to your alternator? The reason I ask is one thing I have noticed during my build is with my Top-mounted turbo, being sexy as shit, the 1st and 2nd runners are super close to my Alternator plastic. It's really hard plastic and I would imagine it has to be pretty resistant to high temps, but fabbed a heat shield that would sit between the two just in case. I really only have the stock mani as a reference to how close it was to the alternator, but I was wondering if you guys were even worried bout it... Anyone else out there with CPBoost Top mounted turbo? SSinstaller? Thoughts?

I know this post doesn't help but I'll have mine done soon. lol.

[buddhabum]

Originally Posted by StreetUnitMark I know this post doesn't help but I'll have mine done soon. lol.

So will I! Let's see whose alternator melts first.

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by buddhabum So will I! Let's see whose alternator melts first.

it wasnt of concern. i am concerned in general with the heat that will be generated, but i want a number first. im gonna pull it off the minute i get back to nc and have it coated. jet hot is 15 minutes away from me. for now, weve taped and wrapped as much as we can.... the screamer pipe makes contact with the plastic brether on the alternator, and bumps against the ac line that runs through the back corner of the engine bay.

the screamer were still working on... i dont like placement with the medieval mani at all. at this point it rattles obnoxiously against the frame, contacts too much shit, and dumps out right around where the axle is.

were gonna work on that. one way or the other its either gonna have to be routed out the side fender, to the front of the car over the engine, or back towards the exhaust outlet. with the placement of the ewg, and the alternator, it makes the most obvious solution(the exhaust outlet) damn near impossible.

[SSinstaller]

Originally Posted by buddhabum Quick question... How close is your medievel mani to your alternator? The reason I ask is one thing I have noticed during my build is with my Top-mounted turbo, being sexy as shit, the 1st and 2nd runners are super close to my Alternator plastic. It's really hard plastic and I would imagine it has to be pretty resistant to high temps, but fabbed a heat shield that would sit between the two just in case. I really only have the stock mani as a reference to how close it was to the alternator, but I was wondering if you guys were even worried bout it... Anyone else out there with CPBoost Top mounted turbo? SSinstaller? Thoughts?

My shop is still dragging ass on my build so it's not even mounted in the car yet... But, I remember Carlos telling me that his manifold has that runner 1 inch closer to the alternator than the stock manifold did....I don't imagine it will cause any problems, but I might end up making a heat shield as well..

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by SSinstaller My shop is still dragging ass on my build so it's not even mounted in the car yet... But, I remember Carlos telling me that his manifold has that runner 1 inch closer to the alternator than the stock manifold did....I don't imagine it will cause any problems, but I might end up making a heat shield as well..

mine is alot closer but not to the plastic. closer to the heatshield on the alternator itself. were just going to reinforce it.

[y2kc0wb0y]

I'm not concerned about that runner against the alternator. I'm more concerned about the O2 sensors touching that runner..we have them heat wrapped but that's a GHETTO "fab"ulous temporary fix.

[fbpem1]

gonna be a small thread jack, but where did you get the top mount mani? i need one.

[ms3guy22]

my first o2 sensor doesn come close? and my dump tube doesn't hit anything, or rattle anything. jb weld plus 1.5 in flex wraped in dei header wrap equal= well it works

[jhershorin]

Originally Posted by fbpem1 gonna be a small thread jack, but where did you get the top mount mani? i need one.

the top mount mani comes from the best tuner i know. he sponsored my last car and we built it together. his name is carlos in puerto rico. his company is creative performance. his website is cpboost.com

i brought him to the forums to let others see his great work.

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by ms3guy22 my first o2 sensor doesn come close? and my dump tube doesn't hit anything, or rattle anything. jb weld plus 1.5 in flex wraped in dei header wrap equal= well it works

jb weld? i demand pics. did you make this yourself? and where exactly is it dumping... beside the wheel like mine? how low did you take it?

[ms3guy22]

Not long at all man, i used the 5 min jb weld to hold it together. than i used the real stuff.... its been on there through hell and high water now. I'll show you pics, as soon as I get that 1.1 bar spring. i think the only thing keeping it together is the dei header wrap. i mangaed to bend it so it fits between the block and the firewall. it dumps below the car almost near the hotchis sway bar.

[medieval]

I really need to make and offer a screamer pipe for those that buy the manifold. I have left it to the end user to build one and think it might be a good idea to start producing one.

[danesti]

Originally Posted by medieval I really need to make and offer a screamer pipe for those that buy the manifold. I have left it to the end user to build one and think it might be a good idea to start producing one.

then noobs like me would have something to buy...
but the problem lies with different DP`s and the fact i drive an ms6

[medieval]

Originally Posted by danems6 then noobs like me would have something to buy... but the problem lies with different DP`s and the fact i drive an ms6

The manifold will fit both MS3 and MS6. The stock turbo location does not change with the manifold.

[danesti]

im aware.. im talking about a dump pipe

[94jedi]

Originally Posted by palerider personally...i havent had this car on the road enough to justify the idiocy of what ive done. this is a car for all of us. i really do hope everybody feels that way. many years from now the memories of this fucking thing wont touch the memories of what its meant to own it and be a part of this community. thats the only way i can justify this shit to myself. that and the fact that i sling a few parts out of it. my wife is very practical. and truly, if not for her, this car wouldnt exist. We have a good marriage because she allows this nonsense with only a small amount of hassle. To this day her greatest complaints are... 1. its too loud 2. she thinks its ridiculous.... that i bought the gti, and have had a rental dodge caliber with maryland plates parked in the driveway for the last 3 weeks. I'll give her a kiss before i leave. She was the winning lottery ticket. And shockingly, with the four kids in tow..... still hot as hell.

Randy, tell your wife "thanks" from all of us. You sure hit the lottery w /her. Of course, you probably make enough money that the MS3 project is sort of a "minor distraction" compared to everything else.

[Driverman5777]

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[ill_eagle94]

Well, I just read through all 7 pages of this thread and I am now very excited to see what happens!

Good luck with everything!

[boosted3]

what happend no dyno yet been liek 2 weeks since there was suppost to be a dyno wana see what all this money spending can do or if it does anything

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by boosted3 what happend no dyno yet been liek 2 weeks since there was suppost to be a dyno wana see what all this money spending can do or if it does anything

i havent dynoed just to frustrate you...you specifically, especially.

[Laloosh]

lmao! you got a lil laloosh inside of you

[clown_car]

The number one goal of Palerider is to promote the modifying of MS3 cars for increased performance and (legal) racing. On this site, image and styling takes a back seat to substance and real world performance - more tech, less fluff. The catering to the performance enthusiast, promoting the sharing of information and ideas regarding modifications, parts, and the results of those modifications. We are an inclusive community.
I take my hat off to you Palerider.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by clown_car The number one goal of Palerider is to promote the modifying of MS3 cars for increased performance and (legal) racing. On this site, image and styling takes a back seat to substance and real world performance - more tech, less fluff. The catering to the performance enthusiast, promoting the sharing of information and ideas regarding modifications, parts, and the results of those modifications. We are an inclusive community. I take my hat off to you Palerider.

lol wow 17 posts and you have already brainwashed him randy haha

[ms3guy22]

wtf my post was edited! however inappropiate it was funny, come on

[phailerider]

So this update/project thread = total fail.

Im pulling my troubled motor out of the car. This motor isnt gonna get it done. Im going with a P3 build from the ground up. This is going to raise alot of questions, but Im not going to answer them. Sorry....
The one thing i will say is that the motor in the car was never right from the start. i suspected it, everybody around it suspected it, and this project exposed it. Im only guilty of ignoring it perhaps. Much to CPE/P3's relief, that wont be happening any longer.

I dont blame Ken, I dont blame Mark Riley, i dont blame P3 for the latest issues, and Im not going to blame myself.....Ive just got to pull the motor and thats that. Im confidant that P3 can handle the job on the new one.

No more threads like this from me..... when its done its done. I'll post about my car then. Its been 9 months, we can wait a little longer. Im still confidant in the platform, lets be clear about that. 500whp is still the goal. Im just having to start over again. Thats that...

ok....lets lock this motherfucker.

[dadasracecar]

i want 600 whp

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by dadasracecar i want 600 whp

I want a car that runs without knocking, slapping, eating metal, or smoking. lets make that the short term goal for now.....

btw jason... glad to hear youre doing alright.