Ground control and koni yellows

[Bap]

I am so impatient I am getting Ground control coils and koni yellows put on This thursday. I bugged them to make a kit and finally after they developed the camber plates I am getting the kit put in. I will put up some pictures when I finally get my car back.

[SLOWHATCH]

Cool story BRO!

Glad you got it installed and posted pics.

[Bap]

I think it took about a month of me calling every few day for someone their to say yea bring your car in we will take a look but persistence payed off.

[Bap]

I got my car back today from Ground Control god it is nice. It has a firm ride the way I like it and plenty of travel. the coils are set right now about mid way on the perches so about an inch and a half drop right now. It looks so much better now I am very happy with the out come. The koni shocks do help a lot with the comfort when you go to a stiffer spring combo. Here are some pictures of before and after.

After

Front Before and after


Rears before and after


and here is a shot of the front spring and perch

Well what do you guys think?

[Crarrs]

Are these parts going into production?

[daafisch]

Where are these camber plates you mention? Also are they going to be selling this conversion kit?

[Bap]

Yes they are. They are still developing the camber plates one set for street use that will be just for adjusting the camber and one race set for adjusting camber and caster. they explained to me that the street plates will basically have different holes that you move the mount to to adjust the camber. when i get them installed in about a month or two I will post pics.

[Bap]

This is from Ground Controls Facebook page

Introducing the Ground Control coilover conversion kit for the 2010-2014 Mazdaspeed3 & Focus ST. Come see us at Mazfest this weekend, along with our other new Mazda offerings!!!

[manila]

@Bap; Drop looks nice!
Looking forward to info on future pricing!
Sorry for the question, but what is a coilover conversion kit? lol

[Speed3in215]

I've heard of them before, but ain't ground control coils are now fully adjustable coilovers ?

[Bap]

Originally Posted by manila @Bap; Drop looks nice! Looking forward to info on future pricing! Sorry for the question, but what is a coilover conversion kit? lol

Thankx I really enjoy the drop they said that I have about another inch or so to go lower if i would like. And a coil over conversion basically replaces the springs with their spring and adjustable perch setup. and the adjustable perch gives you your height adjustment.

Originally Posted by Speed3in215 I've heard of them before, but ain't ground control coils are now fully adjustable coilovers ?

They are if you have adjustable struts and shocks with the coil overs. They will be developing the camber plates as well to give you full adjustability like a full coil over set for example Tein.

[GoSpeed3Go]

you were you at their shop in shingle springs? my buddy told me he saw them working on a mazdaspeed recently while i was doing a tint job at shingle springs honda.

[triplejumper18]

I have a corner balanced street/track Ground Control full coilover setup on my E30 and love them.

[Bap]

Originally Posted by GoSpeed3Go you were you at their shop in shingle springs? my buddy told me he saw them working on a mazdaspeed recently while i was doing a tint job at shingle springs honda.

Yea they had my car for about a week.

[Lex]

Do those include the top bearings for the front?

[himurax13]

So these can be used with the Bilstein B8's and Swift Springs?

[Bap]

Originally Posted by Lex Do those include the top bearings for the front?

yes it does @Lex; include the bearings in the picture.

Originally Posted by himurax13 So these can be used with the Bilstein B8's and Swift Springs?

yes you can use them with bilsteins and they come with eibach race springs in a variety of spring rate depending on what your use will be. i.e. track, autocross/ daily or just comfort daily. you just have to tell them what you plan on doing with the car and they can set you up with the right set for you.

[Bap]

a new picture from ground control.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by Bap a new picture from ground control.

Will these work on a gen 1?

I am sure speed 6 guys would like some love. To @phate; let them see your car for a week lol

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[xpystchrisx]

Well that blows. I just dropped my money on Swift's because GC wouldn't return my emails asking them if they had anything in the works.

[Bap]

Originally Posted by Deldran Will these work on a gen 1? I am sure speed 6 guys would like some love. To @phate; let them see your car for a week lol Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk 4

I think it should but I would give them a call and to make sure. the basic kit is essentially a spring replacement with a perch built in and the koni's might be a different part number but i am not sure for the gen one's.

Originally Posted by xpystchrisx Well that blows. I just dropped my money on Swift's because GC wouldn't return my emails asking them if they had anything in the works.

That sucks, I have not had any luck with the online emails form that they have I always end up having to call.

[phate]

Originally Posted by Deldran Will these work on a gen 1? I am sure speed 6 guys would like some love. To @phate; let them see your car for a week lol

I'd still rather have a tailored set with proper valving for the spring rates and weight of my car

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by phate I'd still rather have a tailored set with proper valving for the spring rates and weight of my car

True but I believe these use standard race springs so you could match the springs much better to the valving. That and the springs are like 60 bucks a pop cheap enough to experiment with.

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[xpystchrisx]

Originally Posted by Bap I think it should but I would give them a call and to make sure. the basic kit is essentially a spring replacement with a perch built in and the koni's might be a different part number but i am not sure for the gen one's. That sucks, I have not had any luck with the online emails form that they have I always end up having to call.

Well... Just because I purchased the Koni/Swift combo doesn't mean they have to be installed.

[phate]

Originally Posted by Deldran True but I believe these use standard race springs so you could match the springs much better to the valving. That and the springs are like 60 bucks a pop cheap enough to experiment with. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk 4

My question would be whether or not they're taking an OTS Koni and revalving it for the springs they're already using or offering. If you change spring rates more than a few pounds in either direction, the shocks need revalved. [Also, I would want a bilstein, not a koni. Just my personal preference.]

Edit: you don't match springs to valving, you match the valving to the springs.

[Bap]

Originally Posted by phate My question would be whether or not they're taking an OTS Koni and revalving it for the springs they're already using or offering. If you change spring rates more than a few pounds in either direction, the shocks need revalved. [Also, I would want a bilstein, not a koni. Just my personal preference.] Edit: you don't match springs to valving, you match the valving to the springs.

the shocks and struts on my car are off the shelf koni yellows but with that being said they do have their own valving that koni does for them as well. And they are better at controlling higher spring rates. the up side to koni is that they are adjustable and they tried from what they told me about 20 different sets of springs on the car to see what would work well my setup currently is a stiffer autocross setup and the dampeners work well at controlling the springs from what i can feel.

[mzr0818]

group buy???

[Crarrs]

Do you know the Koni part number for the strut housings they are using? That alignment tab at the bottom isn't going to fasten to the knuckle the same way as the stock-replacement Koni Sports.

EDIT: I was just looking at the photo and thinking about it more. What I thought was the alignment tab in that photo is actually probably the bracket for the brake line. The actual alignment tab is probably out of view, in contact with the floor in that photo. Still curious of which strut body they are using though.

[phate]

Originally Posted by Bap the shocks and struts on my car are off the shelf koni yellows but with that being said they do have their own valving that koni does for them as well. And they are better at controlling higher spring rates. the up side to koni is that they are adjustable and they tried from what they told me about 20 different sets of springs on the car to see what would work well my setup currently is a stiffer autocross setup and the dampeners work well at controlling the springs from what i can feel.

I was actually doing some work with autocross times last night, lol. I was seeing if I really wanted to change classes based on my times from the past year compared to the class I want to run in (ESP, and yes I do). While doing that, I thought it would be fun to see how consistent I, and other drivers were.

The std deviation of my times over the last 10 events is .61s...and since I've been running Rivals, that stddev has dropped to .47s (both are more consistent than the majority of autocrossers on the same courses). If adjusting the valving on shocks gains or loses <.47s for me, I'll never know that they were the cause of my gain or loss of time. I've had adjustable Koni's on other cars I've autocrossed, and I can tell you that I have no idea what setting was best, lol. It takes some serious commitment to actually analyze that, and the only place I can do that is autocross events. It would take the average person too long to actually dial them in, and I would bet the average person never will get them dialed in.

[Bap]

Originally Posted by mzr0818 group buy???

I will ask next time i am up their which should be soon if they are thinking of doing a group buy.

Originally Posted by Crarrs Do you know the Koni part number for the strut housings they are using? That alignment tab at the bottom isn't going to fasten to the knuckle the same way as the stock-replacement Koni Sports. EDIT: I was just looking at the photo and thinking about it more. What I thought was the alignment tab in that photo is actually probably the bracket for the brake line. The actual alignment tab is probably out of view, in contact with the floor in that photo. Still curious of which strut body they are using though.

The are the 8741 1490LSport, 8741 1490RSport, and 8040 1353Sport the fronts have had the spring seats removed for more adjustability for the treaded base.

[shadow102]

Just picked up a set of koni's in the for sale section in anticipation of these being available now. Always like this setup for a daily/autocross/pdx car as it works really well and you wont break the bank

[shadow102]

I emailed ground control and they got back to me on Friday, they said they will be announcing the release of their ms3 suspension components in the next week or so on their Facebook

[coopsspeed]

The drop looks really good man! Like the setup

[NCspecV81]

yeah I Like these. Will monitor this thread.

[Strangel]

Huh... Ground Control seems to have deleted the post on Facebook. I asked them twice about these on that specific post and they did not respond. My last post said, "Crickets..." That was a few days ago and now it's gone.

What up GC?
@Bap; DO you know anything more about this kit? Thanks!

[Bap]

what questions do you have? your local you are welcome to come up to Roseville to check them out if you want.

[daafisch]

Originally Posted by Strangel Huh... Ground Control seems to have deleted the post on Facebook. I asked them twice about these on that specific post and they did not respond. My last post said, "Crickets..." That was a few days ago and now it's gone. What up GC? @Bap; DO you know anything more about this kit? Thanks!

I sent an email to them Thursday and this was their response.

Hello Jon,
Thanks for contacting us and for your interest in our products. The Speed
3 kit and components are nearly complete and will be released next week.
Keep an eye on our Facebook page for the announcement.
Thanks,
Donovan

[Strangel]

Thanks fellas. @Bap; Are you helping Galen with his suspension? If so, maybe I'll drop by then to check it out.

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[Bap]

Originally Posted by Strangel Thanks fellas. @Bap; Are you helping Galen with his suspension? If so, maybe I'll drop by then to check it out. Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk

yea i am when ever we are doing it.

[shadow102]

Originally Posted by daafisch I sent an email to them Thursday and this was their response. Hello Jon, Thanks for contacting us and for your interest in our products. The Speed 3 kit and components are nearly complete and will be released next week. Keep an eye on our Facebook page for the announcement. Thanks, Donovan

that's the same exact email i got from them back on the 29th