ATP 3071r swap how to , lenny gets BT fever too

[bmylez]

True, 350 on stock motor is probably plenty. I'm sure you don't feel like dropping $3k just to be back where you started.

Getting the turbo off sounds like a real bitch if you are that against pulling it off....not lookin forward to when I start tinkering with stuff...

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 yup...any more preload and you may get too much....

yeah thats what i was thinking, and also it seems to spool still quickly enough to where preloading it more would serve no real advantage. this is fun.... i should go log now some psi maps and break in the slicks LMAO

Originally Posted by Fobio that's be pretty cool for xtian to make a 3071 base map...thanks for guinea pigging lenny!

I got plenty of help from others, so why not do the same for the new batch of BT guys

Originally Posted by bmylez True, 350 on stock motor is probably plenty. I'm sure you don't feel like dropping $3k just to be back where you started. Getting the turbo off sounds like a real bitch if you are that against pulling it off....not lookin forward to when I start tinkering with stuff...

its not horrible.... JCMS07 and I pulled mine off in 2hrs flat .... just tieed of working on the car, I just want to enjoy it.

[FreeFlyFreak]

If I had more time to work on my car I would go BT myself, but I just dont have a) the time, or b) the ability to have downtime on my car for the inevitable glitches along the way.

So I am living my BT dreams through you lenny.
Cant wait to see your progress.

Dont blow your shit up.

[bmylez]

Originally Posted by lenny127 its not horrible.... JCMS07 and I pulled mine off in 2hrs flat .... just tieed of working on the car, I just want to enjoy it.

I know the feeling. That's why I bought my soon-to-be MS3. It's in perfect working order. I put in so many hours on my other car for problems that kept popping up. I had to pull the turbo off of my SVTf 5 times and it was never fun. I got faster at it, but....still sucked.

Just gonna be oil, meth, and gas for me for a little while.

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak If I had more time to work on my car I would go BT myself, but I just dont have a) the time, or b) the ability to have downtime on my car for the inevitable glitches along the way. So I am living my BT dreams through you lenny. Cant wait to see your progress. Dont blow your shit up.

it really doesnt take too long....keep in mind this is my ONLY car.... this is why I am also super cautious, I can't afford to blow this shit up. I think through the stuff we have learned from others, if the turbo doesn't make gobs of torque down low and the user has common sense I think the switch to BT can be done with fairly few glitches.

after seeing what I have seen I do however invest 30 min porting the iwg on the ATPs.... but then again.... if you want to run 13psi why buy such a big turbo for it...lol we have to consider that inherently the 3071r is going to run happiest between 20-22 and the 2871 between 18-20 etc etc... so porting the IWG is being done only to increase the versatility of these turbos and NOT because there is anything wrong with them.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by lenny127 this is fun.... i should go log now some psi maps and break in the slicks LMAO

yes you have plenty of water...start off in 2nd gear and just keep shifting.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak If I had more time to work on my car I would go BT myself, but I just dont have a) the time, or b) the ability to have downtime on my car for the inevitable glitches along the way. So I am living my BT dreams through you lenny. Cant wait to see your progress. Dont blow your shit up.

as lenny said...its easy with the ATP setup...as close to bolt on as you can get.

My car is my DD car and I too can't live without it. IIRC the turbo install was a late night and one full day for hardware installation....and tuning was ...well a bit longer but driveable for sure...LOL

nah just fine tuning my boost was the only issue and I have done it..Lenny and Christian are about to do it, so for the rest of you it will be cake!

I feel confident the GT3071 will be the most popular setup for this platform for a long time.

[rodrigo]

i agree ^^^^^^

after a few maps r developed all u gotta do is copy the set up. and i think u r right about the 3071...for those looking for a solid street car i think its the best of both worlds

[FreeFlyFreak]

I seee what ur doing......and its almost working, but..........

Im gonna wait and see if lenny blows his shit up with the stock internals.
Im already on my second motor, I can't be doing a third.

[rodrigo]

i ain't blowing shit up. just pwning bitches on the streets!!!

[Dano]

ok...but I don't think Lennys car is a good example of what is possible LOL

I have 35K and drive the chit out of my car with the GT28 so stay tuned...LOL

..oh GT28 has been on for 6K so far...*knocks on wood*

[driver311]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 ok...but I don't think Lennys car is a good example of what is possible LOL I have 35K and drive the chit out of my car with the GT28 so stay tuned...LOL ..oh GT28 has been on for 6K so far...*knocks on wood*

Sell your 2871r and buy my 3071r and Ill do 3076r!! lol

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 ok...but I don't think Lennys car is a good example of what is possible LOL I have 35K and drive the chit out of my car with the GT28 so stay tuned...LOL ..oh GT28 has been on for 6K so far...*knocks on wood*

well my car i think will always be on the lower spectrum of what is possible with any turbo because of the miles etc, but that is still valuable information for people to see what the lowest they can expect is......(i think an honest 350-360whp is more than doable with 20psi)

if anthony dynos close to 400whp then that will let the ATP fans know what is possible with the 3071r on the upper end of the spectrum.

the great thing about this turbo is that we are all running no more than 20psi and still have 22 psi to really bring in top power (if we r willing to do the map sensor swap)

and i am still looking at egt s and they are always at least 200 degrees lower than with the ko4.... so if that is not a reason to argue for longevity i dont know what is

[driver311]

Lenny do you have an egr delete and intake mani spacer yet? Those two things help alot.
Oh and I plan on hitting that 400whp mark or atleast close. Im thinking 385-390whp is more like it. I dont wanna go over 22psi so thats gonna me my limit.

[rodrigo]

i might do egr delete one of these days lol.... damn it i want this rain to stop so we can develop the map.... running 13psi untuned is no fun lol

[Dano]

Originally Posted by driver311 Sell your 2871r and buy my 3071r and Ill do 3076r!! lol

I did't see that post ....

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by driver311 Lenny do you have an egr delete and intake mani spacer yet? Those two things help alot. Oh and I plan on hitting that 400whp mark or atleast close. Im thinking 385-390whp is more like it. I dont wanna go over 22psi so thats gonna me my limit.

where can you get this Intake manifold spacer? only guy I know that sells em for our car is PTP's Johnny boi.

[Dano]

you have to buy the IM spacer in the kit that comes with the MAF screen...right?


LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 you have to buy the IM spacer in the kit that comes with the MAF screen...right? LOLOLOLOLOLOL

lol,

no they cum separate.

the IM spacer works as I have it on my car and monitored DH for BAT and IAT before and after.

the chicken wire screen actually comes on some cars in front of the maf to straighten the flow.

was johns necessary for us..? I dunno but it does help some cars, it's not like he was sellin it for 100+ i think it was less then 20.

[Dano]

O I C

so there is some merrit to getting an IM spacer or it just keps the sensors cooler???

I guess if you are already planning to take the IM off the spacer wouldn't be bad but I don't think it would be worth the effort just to have the spacer...no?

[Fobio]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 O I C so there is some merrit to getting an IM spacer or it just keps the sensors cooler??? I guess if you are already planning to take the IM off the spacer wouldn't be bad but I don't think it would be worth the effort just to have the spacer...no?

I'm running the spacer...it helps to keep the IM somewhat cooler.

[SpeedSixxx]

Originally Posted by Fobio I'm running the spacer...it helps to keep the IM somewhat cooler.

yes...those lower IAT's and BAT's mean something other then the sensors being kept cooler..lol

it helps... before hand my IM would be pretty hot to the touch with just the spacer it aint so bad..

[rodrigo]

next asshole that mentions that faggots name is getting banned from this thread

[Fobio]

Originally Posted by lenny127 i might do egr delete one of these days lol.... damn it i want this rain to stop so we can develop the map.... running 13psi untuned is no fun lol

EGR delete is a snap with ATR being able to delete it now. I'd do what "that faggot" was selling and cap off the IN end of the EGR tube, reinstall and call it a day. As oppose to mangling the EGR tube or capping both ends.

[DevilsOwn]

Looks pretty small to me.

[rodrigo]

^^^^ thats what all my ex's have told me chance, nothing new to my ears

Originally Posted by Fobio EGR delete is a snap with ATR being able to delete it now. I'd do what "that faggot" was selling and cap off the IN end of the EGR tube, reinstall and call it a day. As oppose to mangling the EGR tube or capping both ends.

yeah , blocking off should be easy. still recuperating from the turbo swap lol

[rigor]

here it's raining like a cow pissin on a flat rock down their?

it is up here fuuuk
tuning goes slow uuug
rain makes it impossible !!

[rodrigo]

dude........it never rains in socal and since friday its been nonstop...and i mean nonstop.... until thursday morning. i cant log, i cant floor it i cant do shit.... all i can do is wait...and by the time it clears up it will be christmas and ill be still with no tune.

oh well, patience . its funny cuz i have the ebc and mbc on the car, i can swap hoses in 2 minutes and maps and bam 20psi !!!

[Dano]

Originally Posted by lenny127 and bam 20psi !!!

"bam" just might be the operative word there....

[rodrigo]

nah...ive ran 20psi on the mbc already.... its fine, map still has super low timing and rich afr...... but it creeps to 21.5 and at wot shifting it boost cuts....so until i can tune ebc for 20psi across i can only run about 19psi on mbc

[Dano]

haha

exactly

Lenny, you're gonna wear you knob out........with all that turning I mean......on your boost controller that is....

[m4tic]

Originally Posted by Fobio EGR delete is a snap with ATR being able to delete it now. I'd do what "that faggot" was selling and cap off the IN end of the EGR tube, reinstall and call it a day. As oppose to mangling the EGR tube or capping both ends.

if you want to install the intake spacer, which is actually a working part(!), you have to remove the egr tube as it will be too short and it doesnt change shape.

[djuosnteisn]

I kept mine on there, just took a lil bit of love to fit it.



Granted, mine will be coming off very shortly though... and so will that spacer lol.

[rodrigo]

i need 20.5 ebc map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn this 13psi bullcrap, fucken rain!!!!!!!!

[Fobio]

Originally Posted by bmorrisj if you want to install the intake spacer, which is actually a working part(!), you have to remove the egr tube as it will be too short and it doesnt change shape.

my egr tube fits, with the spacer on...I don't know how, but it was not an issue that came up.

[FreeFlyFreak]

"Pull a lenny"

A term originating from MSF.org, when lenny127 replaced his K04 OEM turbo with a brand new K04, and then within a couple of weeks decided to go "Big Turbo" and bought and installed a Garret 3071 turbo instead.

Example
"Hey philly, did you hear about FreeFly....... he pulled a lenny"

Definition: "pull a lenny", to make the decision quickly and out of the blue to go BT with no prior indication or warning.



Oh, and the example is just that an example........ I have not "pulled a lenny".......yet

[rodrigo]

well , if u must know. i wasnt gonna swap shit originally....but i saw anthony (driver311) put up a new 09 1k miles ko4 for like 3 bills or so.... i couldnt pass that shit up. so i bought it and sure enough my ko4 was cracked.

then all is well, and idk i guess i was bored or simpley ronery from going to an empty bed all this time and felt i needed something of meaning in my life.... i heard a 3071r would fill such a void.

and shit it worked!!!!!!!!!!

[zx2man]

Originally Posted by lenny127 i need 20.5 ebc map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn this 13psi bullcrap, fucken rain!!!!!!!!

Feelin the wrath of the dam rain gods. Sucks doesnt it lol. Thats what Washington is 5 days out of 7 from october to april. Fuckin blows. I generaly have to pussy foot my car around town.

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by FreeFlyFreak Oh, and the example is just that an example........ I have not "pulled a lenny".......yet

...... durrr... go pull a lenny, NAO!

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by zx2man Feelin the wrath of the dam rain gods. Sucks doesnt it lol. Thats what Washington is 5 days out of 7 from october to april. Fuckin blows. I generaly have to pussy foot my car around town.

seriously i dont think its ever rained 5 days in a row in the history of socal.... wtf wtf wtf