ATP 3071r swap how to , lenny gets BT fever too

[superskaterxes]

dont worry lenny, saturday was fail for lots of us haha

[rodrigo]

do tell man..... but i doubt your fail was worse than mine.....

13.4 at 104
13.4 at 107

big turbo hahahahahhaah doesnt get much worse man... oh and slicks!!! hahahhahaha

or pm me... i wanna know

[aaronc7]

I still can't open any of your new maps lenny, i have no idea why it's not letting me and I just getting frustrated about it at this point... ATR deleted off my computer lol.

some random dude sent me the install exe...but that is no help, you have to have AP plugged in during install and obviously I don't have one so...

[rodrigo]

hahahah no worries aaron. u might be busy shortly with other stuff LOL

[Dano]

Originally Posted by aaronc7 some random dude sent me the install exe...but that is no help, you have to have AP plugged in during install and obviously I don't have one so...

i=random dude. forgot about that little step...LOL

Originally Posted by aaronc7 I still can't open any of your new maps lenny, i have no idea why it's not letting me and I just getting frustrated about it at this point... ATR deleted off my computer lol.

P.S. That's the same problem Christian was having so he ordered a new computer...LOL

[rodrigo]

yeah...xtian straight out dumped me.... i never heard back from him. and at this point i am not interested anymore in ebc tuning.... my tune is complete.

zx2 man can be the guniea pig..ill sell him the grimspeed cheap

[aaronc7]

perhaps some sort of ATR bug. i cant open them on either my laptop or desktop now.. wtf i didnt change anything!

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by aaronc7 perhaps some sort of ATR bug. i cant open them on either my laptop or desktop now.. wtf i didnt change anything!

did u try to set the time to 11:59pm??? what i think is happening here is that..... LOL

[rodrigo]

alright, still working on meth mixes to see how the car responds.... i kinda like pure meth, always seems to run better.

anyways here are the latest logs, socks is helping me adjust the sensitivity of the KR sensors ..... car does get a lil KR happy...pushing it to its limits for sure.

1-2 are 3rd gear and third log is 4th gear.

datalog1.csv

datalog2.csv

datalog3.csv

[pearl_ms3]

lenny how much u want for the ebc?

[rodrigo]

new its 100 ( i think) i bought it from someone here (unopened) 75 shipped , i used it for idk 2days lol..... 60 shipped

[pearl_ms3]

cool pm me ur paypal.

[driver311]

Lenny the car is making way more power as of last two days. Nice work and glad I could help

[jracer]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes dont worry lenny, saturday was fail for lots of us haha

what kinda fail did you have superskaterxs ??

[Lex]

Lenny, did you use to do some timed gear pulls or acceleration using the DH? Maybe a good way to see power improvement esp in higher gears where you're not spinning.

[Dano]

that g/s airflow sure is looking nice!

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 that g/s airflow sure is looking nice!

Question is was the MAF recalibrated from last time?

[aaronc7]

my head hurts

[djuosnteisn]

wtf is going on in here?


Lenny, what changed on your map?

[disniggah]

MAF g/s 4 lyfe

[NJSPEED3]

You really dont have much Kr to worry about dude.

[rodrigo]

ill update later guys, i just had a tooth pulled and it was infected so im not feeling so hot

[Ziggo]

Vicodin and driving!

[rodrigo]

alright guys, good and bad news.

the good.... here are the latest logs (and last)

datalog1.csv

datalog2.csv


the bad, I anticipated temps being off by about 7 degrees, so i adjusted the mbc to give me 22psi............ well, on my 3rd log (4th gear) that unfortunately didnt copy right into the AP at about 115mph 6800 rpm i blew out a huge cloud of smoke out the back.

first thought of course we can all guess, but as i slowed down keeping an eye on oil pressure I didnt notice any actual power loss , nor noise nor anything that pointed to catastrophic failure. I naturally assumed that an oil line perhaps gave way or w/e...... got the fucker back home limping slowly (it was midnight about 5 miles from home) pulled up to the house popped the hood and immediately saw no dipstick.....

so conclusion, the amount of boost i am running is getting closer and closer to the point where the crankcase (in no small part due to blow by) cannot evacuate pressures fast enough and last time it was a leaky valve cover, this time it was a flying dipstick. (couldnt find the fucker either) ill check the pcv valve later and i might add another vent to the valve cover to help

so went to the local do it yourself car wash and blasted the bay all over with high pressure, turned the boost down to 18 and fwy dried the motherfucker. tomorrow i gotta go buy another dipstick but as far as logging and tuning this is the point I am DONE 100%


at this point i am not even sure dynoing Thursday like i had planned on will happen, not worth it for a daily driver.

thanks aaron, anthony and sean for the help with tuning. and the other guys for the great advice i have gotten along the way.

thats a wrap guys.

[predapio]

So the only dipstick you saw was in the mirror?

[spnkr21]

A Venturi pipe might help. Just a thought.

[socks]

dangit lenny, i told you you should have got a ptp maf screen. you wouldnt have blown your dipstick if you had.

[driver311]

Lenny mine has done that once also. When i turned the boost up to 22psi one time for two pulls it did it. I turned it back down to 19psi and it hasnt done it again. Im gonna try hooking the vent tube back to my intake for now but eventually wanna try a 2nd vent on the valvecover. Like the hondas do.

[rigor]

i vote pvc


if it gets hung up just for a sec, out goes your dip stick no matter what psi you run!
i told you to quit boosting the bottom end lol...

[cpolly69]

Here's another idea -
The pcv system can't vent the amount of compression gases leaking into the crankcase past the piston rings fast enough no matter how you modify it because it wasn't designed to do that.
Time for a compression check.....

[djuosnteisn]

Check valve is good insurance against a stuck open pcv.

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by cpolly69 Here's another idea - The pcv system can't vent the amount of compression gases leaking into the crankcase past the piston rings fast enough no matter how you modify it because it wasn't designed to do that. Time for a compression check.....

hos that another idea? thats the main reason i think this happened lol

[cpolly69]

Originally Posted by lenny127 hos that another idea? thats the main reason i think this happened lol

oh yeah
that would be the "it's a wrap" comment huh?

[NJSPEED3]

check your pcv system first and do a damn compression test already then make your decision before giving up on the tuning.

[rodrigo]

im not giving up on the tuning, we r done.

i have 7 degrees by 4500 10 degrees by 5500 and 13 by 6500 so thats good enough, afrs are around 11.8-11.5 so thats good enough and boost is solid 21.

nothing else to do,

i did go get a dipstick and boosted it to 21 and zero problems, dropped about a quart and a half of oil, replaced (oil pressure was always perfect last night so no worries)

only problem is getting all the fucken oil out of all the crevices, cleaned it as much as i could, time to let the rest burn off.... btw ex mani looks like dogshit now, like a big bird took a shit on it.

im gonna go ahead and dyno it tomorrow , it wont be on a dynojet or mustang..its a dynapack purposely so i can compare it to the guys I know locally , especially JCMS07 that dynod 343whp on it (they read 5% higher than dynojets) so it's like a 325whp on a dynojet....which matches his trap speeds at our tracks.

once i have the number it puts out i can apply it to the traps i should see once i get the driving part down like i had it on the ko4.

if it reads 300, 350, 400 doesnt matter...no changes will be made... I have pushed my luck for too long and this needs to be the end of this chapter until I rebuild the motor.

ill post results, shitty or good...most likely SHITTY!!!

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by cpolly69 oh yeah that would be the "it's a wrap" comment huh?

no..actually the "blow by" comment.

no complaints, i have abused this car from day one and still kicking ass .

[Dano]

Lenny...that fuckin MBC knob is going to be your undoing....

[rodrigo]

nah im good. i have a "do not turn past this point" mark on it lol

u know temps affect boost on mbc cars.... so to try to get as much consistent boost as possible I try to adjust....just for fair comparisons... but not that easy .

anyways, nothing else to be done..time to enjoy the car..also i checked out the shifter video and mine is set perfectly....so its not the shifter. i need to lower boost to 15 or something where second wont spin so i can practice powershift and the timing of this new clutch

[Dano]

sorry to hear the adjustment didn't fix your shifter issues...


Yes if you don't even touch the dial on you MBC and temps drop your boost goes up ...that's where the danger is in my area at least ....50* temp swings and sometimes in the same day LOL.

we need a hybrid BC setup...MBC runs as is until a certain temp change then a solenoid opens to bleed a very small amount of boost away....hum....you could get the signal off of your IAT sensor and monitor the voltage and when it changes a certain %, bam a relay opens, feeds a sol, and you're good. you would want a gain adjustment to change the % before the sol opened.

at least it looks good on paper...

[rodrigo]

nah.... if u think about it...set the limit of your boost to cold. example for me 22psi when it hits 45 degrees. then during warm runs 21 or so..... car always knocks more during warm anyways so its actually a nice safety measure, provided u set the mbc to the max boost in cold weather.

Im leaving the fucker at 22psi 45 degrees and on the street during daytime will let me run high 20s to mid 21s all day up to 70 degrees

good enough for me