About the pull the trigger on an MS3, but it is smoking ...

[Rezwalker]

Hey all!

I am in the market for an MS3 1st gen. I just had one inspected today and I loved it, but I worry a bit because of the dreaded smoking issue.

Pretty sure it's the turbo, the mechanic saw a bit of oil that leaked. The puffs are grey to dark grey almost black and only while driving and it's intermittent.

The cars is stage 2, with a Corksport turbo. I'm surprised it's doing it even with an aftermarket one to be honest.

So I want to buy the car, but I am of course a little hesitant. What do you guys think?

[shamie]

run away

[Rezwalker]

Originally Posted by shamie run away

Ah come on, dont tell me that dude. I just had it inspected and the mechanic knows this car and he rated it above average. There are some small oil leaks on the valve cover as well, I know I need to change that seal...

Originally Posted by ajkulish the smoke was a symptom of the factory turbo, it shouldnt smoke at all with a corksport. and the fact that its black smoke points to carbon (car running rich). Its probably only doing it on boost right? oil smoke would be light blueish

Yes it's doing it on high boost, 18lbs I think. I can't tell if it's grey, black or blue-ish, because it happens while I drive and it's hard to see with the tinted windows lol.

[ajkulish]

the smoke was a symptom of the factory turbo, it shouldnt smoke at all with a corksport. and the fact that its black smoke points to carbon (car running rich). Its probably only doing it on boost right?

oil smoke would be light blueish

[Djohns]

Sounds to me like it has other issues and it's not the turbo if it's a cs turbo. Run.

[Rezwalker]

Originally Posted by Djohns Sounds to me like it has other issues and it's not the turbo if it's a cs turbo. Run.

Right, but I expected some small repairs initially. I doubt that this indicates the engine is dying or anything, it was just swapped 2 years ago. So I'm just trying to troubleshoot it further.

If you guys have questions to ask me, shoot. Else I could do another run with the car to look for specifics.

[Djohns]

Was the motor rebuilt or replaced? New or used? Who's the car tuned by?

[Rezwalker]

Originally Posted by Djohns Was the motor rebuilt or replaced? New or used? Who's the car tuned by?

Yeap! The engine was replaced, pretty sure it was used. Tuned by an unknown garage around here. Maybe its just the tune?

[Djohns]

Originally Posted by Rezwalker Yeap! The engine was replaced, pretty sure it was used. Tuned by an unknown garage around here. Maybe its just the tune?

Idk. Personally I wouldn't trust it. To me I'd be scared of the rings being shot or something. Especially being tuned by someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

[Jonb82]

I understand the attachment that you get to a car you love. And you will love the MS3. Do yourself a favor and look on Autotrader for a stock one, or a low mileage one that's lightly modded. Ask for maintenance records. There's a lot of Fucktards out there that didn't research or have reliability in mind while modding. Shit, I did, and when you mod a car shit still goes wrong sometimes. I'm at 86k on a 2012 and at the top of my power range on the stock turbo. Only starts to go through oil when I was at the top of my 5k oil change intervals (have since went to 3,500), and only a little consumption. When this car is treated and modded right, with the right tune (not some garage that doesn't know this platform. Search Brentune) it will treat you right. Now start running.


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[Rezwalker]

OK guys. I will take all your advice and run as far away as possible. It breaks my heart but I prefer that than it breaking my wallet down the road.

[Jonb82]

All you have todo with gay people is place the word "love" somewhere in the post. Then they can relate. I'm happy that I connected with you Rezwalker.


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[Rezwalker]

lol

No but you are right, I got attached to the car. Like Vince would say in TF&TF: "Its an amazing machine..."

[Jonb82]

Originally Posted by Rezwalker lol No but you are right, I got attached to the car. Like Vince would say in TF&TF: "Its an amazing machine..."

Happy you have a sense of humor. Find a good one. See you later.


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[ajkulish]

is the car catless?

[Rezwalker]

Originally Posted by ajkulish is the car catless?

Ultimate racing cat back

I've already given up on the car and moved on.

[Bexar]

Originally Posted by Rezwalker Ultimate racing cat back I've already given up on the car and moved on.

Good. I spent a month of daily searching for the right Speed before deciding. The right one will come eventually.

[Rezwalker]

Originally Posted by Bexar Good. I spent a month of daily searching for the right Speed before deciding. The right one will come eventually.

Damn straight. It's been a month already, been through so many ups and downs... I fought hard, but I think it's about to pay off. Found a really awesome one, but far from stock (forged engine). Will update this thread with details as I get them. Having it inspected today.

[Bexar]

Originally Posted by Rezwalker Damn straight. It's been a month already, been through so many ups and downs... I fought hard, but I think it's about to pay off. Found a really awesome one, but far from stock (forged engine). Will update this thread with details as I get them. Having it inspected today.

Sounds good. Just be warry of built stuff as you have honestly 0 idea of what happened to it. Didn't torque to spec after build, was built with cheap internals, etc.

Just try to make sure you're getting something worth your hard earned dough

It is tempting as fuck to pull the trigger on one when you drive it and it's fast

[speed23]

Good call to run away, if it smokes with corksport turbo and under boost then I bet its the rings...

[Rezwalker]

Yeah, there's always that risk. Thanks for your input! I highly respect you guys' opinion. Hell, I was able to say no to this one, I'm still heart broken:

[Jonb82]

I would be too. That's a clean looking car. Like the purple with on the wheels. Maybe not the design so much, but it works


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[ajkulish]

OK, the smoke you were describing seems totally normal for a turbo car on throttle though. Get behind any other high horsepower catless boosted car and you will see the same thing. Its just carbon from burning so much fuel