FULL RACE MANIFOLDS!!!!!

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by Alpha Maybe not TO YOU. Other people Do and WILL pay for quality/reliability now that it's become available. Sure, you can push cheaper parts outside of their efficiency range to hit a number, but as stated... It won't be done efficiently. (More boost, higher EGTs, etc) Edge is here promoting their newly available product. You've stated your opinion... Now move on.

youve done the same in stating your opinion but you keep going on and on like a fanboy making statements as if they are fact when you are misinformed.

Also, just b/c a part is listed for a cheaper price doesnt mean its made of cheaper quality materials and Vice Versa.

In this case especially when it comes to the RB Mani, you know not what you speak of. Next Do a little research before making concrete statements. just sayin.

Now lets get this Thread back on Track. Dope Mani.

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by ZPrice Good looking EM, looked on the site, no price break thru EDGE? Do they have some details on materials of contruction? Quite a bit more than RB EM but we need some more details. Z

We're still finalizing details about this. We'll do the best to help customers out, just like we always do.

Originally Posted by Alpha $899 IS a price break for a manifold of this quality. You can't compare this product to RB, DNP, or any other tubular option... This is a robotically TIG'd piece with a lifetime warranty. Ask RB if they'll give you a lifetime warranty against cracking and see what they say. End of story. Two cheaper/cracked manifolds are more expensive than one FR manifold.

No disrespect coming from this statement Alpha but according to RB, they will be offering a Lifetime Warranty.

Originally Posted by Enki Very tempted. They aren't ceramic coated, are they?

They will come in 2 different ceramic coat options...a 1600 and 2000 degree coating of course, for an extra charge for each one

Originally Posted by ZPrice JP how long do anticipate the offering to be, I have a couple of large ticket items this week and next.

Originally Posted by superskaterxes o shit............. RB >> FR if both have a lifetime warranty. i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....

Like Eric said

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex Why are there no details on this thing? Like what material it's constructed of, tubing wall thickness, tubing diameter, etc..etc....

We're going to provide as many details as possible other than what's on their site.

In reference to price, I will not say what is the better value until a longer term test or sample has taken place. One thing I've learned is what's on paper isn't always what ends up coming true. Testing has to happen for the truth to come out. We will be experimenting with both manifolds from RB and FR.

On that note, you guys will be happy to know that we intend on selling both and have already discussed some of the details with both companies. Our goal is to offer as many quality components for your cars as possible so you have a good selection, all in one place.

The difference in price undoubtedly relates to why there are people who drive MS3's compared to people that drive a BMW 335i which are extremely similar in power and performance. The higher price doesn't always correlate to a certain level of increased performance. People care about rarity, being unique, and knowing they are buying from highly reputable companies. Not that RB is not reputable, they just don't have the time under their belt and a reputation like FR. The choice in manifolds is yours, and you should be happy with what you choose. Both will make the owner happy possibly for reasons other than pure performance differential.

We're excited to offer good products which is why we are going to offer both.

We are taking pre-orders for the FR manis. OP is updated.

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher T3 option?

Yes this will be available but not sure about when/details.

Edit: T25 for EFR kits will be the only alternate flange as of now.

@doubleflusher

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by IshiKage youve done the same in stating your opinion but you keep going on and on like a fanboy making statements as if they are fact when you are misinformed. Also, just b/c a part is listed for a cheaper price doesnt mean its made of cheaper quality materials and Vice Versa. In this case especially when it comes to the RB Mani, you know not what you speak of. Next Do a little research before making concrete statements. just sayin. Now lets get this Thread back on Track. Dope Mani.

I've always been a fan of Full Race and their products, I wouldn't have shipped my car 1750 miles across the country if I wasn't.

Seeing countless FR setups on friends imports, before I even bought my car, turned me on to their work and reputation.

Their expensive/advanced welding process, engineering, longevity, and reliablity is the main reason I sought them out for our platform.

As JP stated, it's all relative and goal dependant as to which product you choose.

I'm just glad to see more quality options come to the market. This is going to be a GREAT year for the Mazdaspeeds!

[RaceBuilt]

FullRace is a good company, been around for a while now. it all comes down to what you personally think. I might be a new company but ive been doing it for just as long as full race has been in business.

[superskaterxes]

wtf why do we all have to get along!!!

i was just starting to have fun =D

[InFeXIoN]

Can't wait for my 7163 as soon as I can press the buy button.

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[captain slow]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes wtf why do we all have to get along!!! i was just starting to have fun =D

We need more people to voice their opinions and ideas like you do. With tough questioning we get answers that help determine if we want the product and we get to see if the vendor is full of shit or not.

Carry on

Tapafuck

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why. i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right?

But isn't a manifold just a manifold?

You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right?

It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms.


And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing!

I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right? But isn't a manifold just a manifold? You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right? It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms. And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing! I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

Couldnt have said it better.

If FR had a T3 twinscroll option I'd buy it ASAP. There shit has been proven across many platforms, no idea why someone would think it would change for us.

I think both companies are in it for the long run, both have great products. No need to start a whos dick is bigger then whos ordeal.

Because in all reality im going to win, I have a huge cock.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf Couldnt have said it better. If FR had a T3 twinscroll option I'd buy it ASAP. There shit has been proven across many platforms, no idea why someone would think it would change for us. I think both companies are in it for the long run, both have great products. No need to start a whos dick is bigger then whos ordeal.

If/when they do... It'll be a T4 flange.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Alpha If/when they do... It'll be a T4 flange.

This I know because all of the twinscroll EFR's are t4.

[8.5MS3]

excuse me while i update my wishlist on edge's website

[FightaX]

I just bought a tv. FUCK

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right? But isn't a manifold just a manifold? You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right? It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms. And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing! I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

your argument is fair but scotts mani in stock form (no bells) is closer to 600. the reason i would buy his is because some of the profit is going towards him and he has put the time and effort into this platform and deserves some back.

not to say your design wouldent be as good or better but its the same thing with the CPE injector seals. PTP had identical designs but i bought the CPE version because i knew i was supporting scott even though they were more expensive.


the point here is the FR manifold is not even close to the same price as RB and your not getting anything else except for robotic welds and a name brand. an 11sec DSM and 11sec BMW are tens of thousands of dollars apart but in the end its still an 11 sec pass for both of them. no matter how u slice it there's no justification for this price.


when the midevil manifolds first came out they were 875 and i LAUGHED in their faces about how no one would buy them. aside from the drama that happened with them, no one ever made any more HP with one then they did with a PG/DNP.....

[SilverDemon]

I think I am a little misty eyed right now.... I love Anthony <3

[h.h.sk1nny]

Originally Posted by FightaX I just bought a tv. FUCK

Take that thing back and get some FR

[doubleflusher]

So how about that price, now that CP-E has finally released their manifold?

[8.5MS3]

looks like im updating.....again

hopefully the cpe price will be a 10% markup similar to their other products and we can get it even cheaper from JP

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Both manifold are now up on the site. The CPE is available now.

http://edgeautosport.com/full-race-p...-2-3-mzr-disi/

http://edgeautosport.com/cp-e-mzr-di...ifold-ms3-ms6/

[specvspeedfreak]

I feel stupid for asking..Who is RB? I only know of racing beat but I doubt that is who you guys are talking about..

I am liking that cpe EM though.. I think for the price that is the way to go. I had a DNP on my gen1 and I can vouch for the power it gave, even on a k04...

edit.. NM. It's race built..

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by JP@edgeautosport.com Yes this will be available but not sure about when/details.

Correction, looks like the T25 flange for the EFR kit will be the only alternate flange option for now.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

these are in stock!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

bump in stock

[h.h.sk1nny]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport bump in stock

Nine hundred ninety nine dollars and ninety free cents? Man I want one of these. At first I thought that only BT peeps would benefit from it. But it sounds like the k04 likes these ex manifolds too. This will be my next performance purchase for sure!!!

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by h.h.sk1nny Nine hundred ninety nine dollars and ninety free cents? Man I want one of these. At first I thought that only BT peeps would benefit from it. But it sounds like the k04 likes these ex manifolds too. This will be my next performance purchase for sure!!!

You'll want to sleep with it on your nightstand so you can wake up next to something beautiful before you put in on. This thing is awesome. Still have a couple ready to ship right now!!

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Ugh, I still don't see any important info on these manifolds on any website.
Type of material utilised in the manifolds construction?
Size of piping used for the runners?
What gives?!

[h.h.sk1nny]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex Ugh, I still don't see any important info on these manifolds on any website. Type of material utilised in the manifolds construction? Size of piping used for the runners? What gives?!

Two words, FULL RACE

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by h.h.sk1nny Two words, FULL RACE

I really hope you're not serious.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

bump we just installed this on the shop car! Super smooth and no issues!

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport bump we just installed this on the shop car! Super smooth and no issues!

Nice right? It's even better on the 6! Tons of room. :phillyb:

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Alpha Nice right? It's even better on the 6! Tons of room. :phillyb:

We had to be super careful as it got le hot temp coating on it so we taped it up a ton and the firewall and vc and slid it in there.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport We had to be super careful as it got le hot temp coating on it so we taped it up a ton and the firewall and vc and slid it in there.

<<< Jealous haha! I wanted the black coating.

If they ever release the T4 TS mani andhotside for this turbo I'll definitely get that done.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Alpha <<< Jealous haha! I wanted the black coating too. If they ever release the T4 TS mani andhotside for this turbo I'll definitely get that done.

The one on our mani was silver.

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport The one on our mani was silver.

Would they be able to coat this thing and leave the full race logo for ricer points (serious question).

Where is their 3" intake?

I see a 3" intake listed in their fmic thread.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Would they be able to coat this thing and leave the full race logo for ricer points (serious question). Where is their 3" intake? I see a 3" intake listed in their fmic thread.

It's an engraved plate that's welded on the runner so it'll always be visable no matter what.

[rfinkle2]

I hate all of you. LOL.

(well, my wallet hates all of you.)

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Alpha It's an engraved plate that's welded on the runner so it'll always be visable no matter what.

Yup I will post pics so we can see the beauty! Also the DP is on there! brb going to take pics!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

@rfinkle2
@Alpha

[BigRedSpecial]

Sure is purdy...

How hot does the manifold get with the ceramic coating? I'm picturing dirtbike exhausts where you can place your hand on the pipe right by the head.