A Must Read If New To MSF
 

UPDATED 2/2015 BY @MD1032;, THANK YOU!

Ultimate Noob Thread for NEW MS6/MS3 OWNERS & NEW FORUM MEMBERS
Update March 2015 - MD1032’s update of Rhoadblock’s update of CFDP’s original thread.

First and foremost, welcome to MSF! This forum is THE source for information on the Mazdaspeed 2.3 DISI lineup:
** 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6 (aka MS6)
** 2007-2009 Mazdaspeed3 (aka Gen1 MS3, Genwon, Genwin)
** 2010-2013 Mazdaspeed3 (aka Gen2 MS3, Genpu, Genpoo)

Be sure to browse around the forum to get a feel for it. It is imperative that you search before creating new threads so that efforts are not duplicated. If you’re still having trouble, we’ll help you find the information you’re looking for, but we will not spoon-feed you. We want you to educate yourself for your safety, and the safety of your car.

I HIGHLY recommend donating to the forum and becoming a VIP member. This forum is run solely on member donations. That means you don't have to deal with advertisements strewn all throughout the forum. Some of the best technical information can be found in the V.I.P. section - PDFs of the workshop manual, engine technical specifications, bolt specs, etc. VIP’s also have access to free Autocheck access, and the For Sale forums where you can save tons on used parts. On top of all that, you get the mutual respect from other donating members. Until you’re VIP, your name and member status will be highlighted in brown. Thus you may come across the term "Brownie" soon.

Here is the link to the donation page: MSF VIP Membership. You may donate any amount you wish, but VIP Membership begins at $25.

IMPORTANT LINK: HOW TO SEARCH MSF:
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-forum-114281/

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To help understand what's going on, here's a list of a few widely used acronyms you'll find used on this forum:
AFAIK - As Far As I Know
AP - Cobb AccessPort
BNIB - Brand New In Box
BOV - Blow Off Valve
BPV - Bypass Valve
BT - Big Turbo (any turbo upgrade larger than the factory k04)
CAI - Cold Air Intake
CEL - Check Engine Light
CBE - Cat Back Exhaust
CDFP - Cam Driven Fuel Pump (same as HPFP)
CO - Coilovers
DH - MSD DashHawk
DP - Downpipe
DTC - Diagnostic Trouble Code
EBCS - Electronic Boost Control Solenoid (aka “BCS”)
EM - Exhaust Manifold
EWG - External Waste Gate
FMIC - Front Mount Intercooler
FTL - For The Lose
FTW - For The Win
FWIW - For What It's Worth
FYHN - F*CK YO' HONDA N*GGA!! (you'll actually see this more than you'd imagine)
HPFP - High Pressure Fuel Pump (same as CDFP)
IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
IM - Intake Manifold
IMHO - In My Honest Opinion
IWG - Internal Waste Gate
MBC - Manual Boost Controller
NCE - No Care Ever (as a newb you'll probably see this more than you'd appreciate)
PMM - Passenger Motor Mount
RMM - Rear Motor Mount
SRI - Short Ram Intake
TBE - Turbo Back Exhaust
TIP - Turbo Inlet Pipe
TL;DR - Too Long; Didn't Read
TM - Turbo Manifold
TMIC - Top Mount Intercooler
TMM - Transmission Motor Mount
TP - Test Pipe
WMI - Water-Methanol Injection
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary
ZZB - Zoom Zoom Boom (when your engine blows up)

The full list with explanations can be found here: Noob's Guide to Tuning Acronyms

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IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BUYING

If you are still considering purchasing a used MS3/MS6 read this thread for things to looks for: I Am Looking To Buy A Used Mazdaspeed - What Should I Look For?

As far as opinions, well, you're on a MazdaSpeed forum. You're gonna get mostly raves from us, but they're well deserved. Every car has it's kinks and quirks, as does the MS6 & MS3, but these are some of the best bang for the buck options on the used market currently.

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JUST BOUGHT YOUR MAZDASPEED/MPS?

RESOURCES

Forums (LEARN HOW TO USE THE SEARCH FEATURE - be it MSF or Google!!)
MSF Advanced Search - Or hit the search button within the current section you are in
This forum is made up of many subforums. Pay close attention to what section you are in. And get acquainted with using the search feature. There are tons of threads that may have likely already answered your question. So before creating a new thread, spend a few minutes searching the forum for threads related to the topic you're interested in. The search function filters out common words such as "the, as, how, much, does", etc. You can try using quotes to search for three letter words. ex: "CAI", "FMM", "CBE", etc. Alternatively, adding asterisks before and after some three letter words will net you results and is called a wildcard search. Unfortunately, it is hit or miss. Example: *rmm*

There are also STICKYS at the top of every section. Please read these. They often contain forum-specific FAQs, or critical information for the MSF community. I suggest looking through these before posting a new topic. They have loads of information deemed important enough for everyone to see above all other threads, be it over-discussed topics, huge news, platform breakthroughs or anything else. So read them and learn.

There are forums for each generation of Mazdaspeed vehicle and their own respective subforums, so please, pay close attention to the section you are in. If you post a thread about MS6 suspension components in the MX-5 Forced Induction section, you're not going to get the response you seek, and you'll get flamed.

Online PDF Mazdaspeed User manuals
MazdaUSA User Manuals

Online Parts Stores
Be sure to look through our Forum Sponsors' Sections for discussions, discounts, and reviews. These are our approved vendors and as mentioned above, have proven their good name over time to maintain an approved vendor status.

OEM/Stock parts
RockAuto Auto Parts - great prices for new parts, excellent catalog
Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market - search index for used parts
Online Mazda Parts - OEM Replacement Mazda Parts

MSF Classifieds/For Sale Forums
MSF Classifieds/For Sale Forum - where you can usually find the BEST deals for used or BNIB parts. Link didn't work for you?? Well that's because it's one of our perks for our VIP Members. Donate to the forum as suggested above. Here's [url= http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/forum/awcoding.php?do=payment&sid=ds the VIP link again[/url]

Interesting Videos
Animation of the 2.3L MZR DISI in motion: Assembly of a 2.3L Duratec engine (nearly identical to our DISI):
TIPS/REMINDERS
** Always let your car fully warm up before letting it get into boost (when you feel the turbo kick in). About midway on the temp gauge is where the needle should be for Gen1 MS3 and MS6 vehicles. 2010-2011 MS3 vehicles have no way of monitoring temperature other than by OBD data streaming (covered below). In 2012-2013 MS3 vehicles, about 10 minutes after the blue “cold temperature” light turns off is probably sufficient. If it's colder out, wait longer. As these are performance vehicles designed to stay cool, they may take 30 minutes to fully warm up in cold weather.
** Stay out of boost until at least 3000RPM. Read below under "Boost Gauge" for more information.
** MS6 owners: If you even need to tow your car: ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU USE A FLATBED, NOT A REGULAR TOW!! The car is AWD and anything other than a flatbed could cause major damage.
** Perform a compression test to verify the health of your engine prior to ANY power modifications!

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BASIC MAINTENANCE

Gas
Be sure to run 93/91 octane, or the highest available. If you accidentally fill your car up with “regular” or other low octane gas, the car will be OK, but do not go into boost or otherwise drive spiritedly on that tank of gas.

Oil Changes
There are many opinions when it comes to oil. The recommended oil according to Mazda is 5W-30 synthetic. Many on here also use 5W-40 synthetic. If you want to read more, here is THE oil thread to consult.

Checking/Changing your fluids
Refer to the following thread (especially MS6 owners): MS6 Fluid Notes & DIY Pictures

The MS3 uses the same fluids as the MS6. The only exception is that Gen2 (2010+) MS3’s specify 75W-80 transmission fluid as opposed to the 75W-90 weight used in MS6 and Gen1 MS3 vehicles. For all Mazdaspeed DISI vehicles, make sure you use GL4 fluid, not GL5.

FL22 coolant can be purchased from Mazda. Zerex “Asian Vehicle”, Toyota pink, and Honda blue are also compatible.

Cabin Air Filter (every 25K miles)
MS6 In-Cabin Air filters - (MS3 part numbers listed inside following how-to thread)
NAPA FILTER ... Part #4579 ... $15-16 || ORIELLY FILTER ... Part #3705 ... $8 || WIX FILTER ... Part #24579 ... $16
How to: How-To: MS6 Cabin Air Filter | How-To’s: Gen1 MS3 Cabin Air Filter | How-To: Gen2 MS3 Cabin Air Filter

Spark Plugs
DISI Spark Plug Database NOTE: The OE NGK equivalent for the Gen2 MS3 is NGK part number 95369 (SILTR6A-7G) - this has a narrower gap than the Gen1 OE plug.

Bulbs
MS6, Gen1 & Gen2 MS3 Light Bulbs

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FIXES
Refer to this thread for information on recalls/TSBs

** My windows won't go down automatically and/or I can't control them from the driver's door??!
This happens after the battery is disconnected.

MS6: Simply roll down EACH window a bit, then back up, holding the button "up" until you hear a couple clicks. ALL SET!
Gen2 MS3: Pull the switch up and let the window seat. Continue holding for 10 seconds or until a faint click is heard. Repeat for the “down” direction.

** Alignment! You will want to get your alignment checked out ASAP. Mazda's specs have a HUGE range, and are set for a very aggressive stance, which leads to severe uneven tire wear. So you are looking for more a more even alignment, giving even tire wear. Mazda also released a TSB for the MS6 a good while back for a revised front passenger control arm that corrected uneven caster that resulted in the car pulling to the right. Call your local Mazdaspeed dealer and ask if your car aqualifies for it.
Alignment .. "in Spec" Not Good Enough - Page 26 - Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 Forum / Mazda Atenza Forum

** 2006 Clutch pedal adjustment - (does not apply to some later 2006’s and ALL 2007’s)
If you notice your clutch petal is hard to press down, or is too annoying to operate, you can do two things:
1. Take it to Mazda and beg them to do the “Clutch TSB”, which means they will change out the entire clutch completely under warranty
Adjustment link - (this should apply to both the MS6 & Gen1 MS3: Adjusting The Clutch Pedal - Page 2 - Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 Forum / Mazda Atenza Forum
2. Adjust it yourself using our handy DIY’s! Adjustment Guide | Ghetto Adjustment Guide | Guide from another forum

** Dirty Intake Valves - One of the biggest problems with engines using direct injection is the inevitable buildup of carbon deposits on the intake valves. If you have reached the point where your idle is rough or it feels like the car has a cam in it (usually 40k+ miles on a stock car), the intake valves are dirty and need to be cleaned. This mainly affects low-end power. Refer to this DIY on how to clean your valves

** Injector Seals - The stock injector seals are of an extremely poor design that is especially prone to failure above 300 wtq, however, they are known to fail on completely stock cars and symptoms are hard to nail down because the problem generally only appears at very high cylinder pressures where it can show up as knock.
How To CPE Injector Seals + Studs + EGR Delete
Toyota Injector Seals - A cheaper alternative to CP-E and CS

** Smoking Turbo - (smoke is coming out of your exhaust pipe when you are sitting idle for 5-10min+)
You might or might not experience this.
Do an oil change, changing to 5W-40 rather than 5W-30. The thicker viscosity will help prevent the oil from seeping past the seals.
Information on warranty extension for VVT actuator and smoking turbo from Mazda
More information on Mazda’s own procedure for fixing it
**THE ONLY PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM IS TO REPLACE THE TURBO**

** CEL/MIL/DTC Codes - A persistent check engine light means that the ECU has self-diagnosed a problem in your vehicle (a flashing check engine light that goes away means the ECU has detected a severe misfire which does not indicate a DTC is set). You must use a code reader/scan tool to access this code. If you don’t have a Cobb AP or other tuning utility, a relatively inexpensive modern option is to obtain an ELM327 bluetooth obd adapter (I personally recommend the low profile/”super mini” version) and use a phone app (eg, Torque for Android). Once you have the code, go to the following link to look it up. To understand why you're throwing the code, you'll have to do some research. Mazda OBD-II Trouble Codes

** Noises - Noises are part of owning a Mazdaspeed, especially during the colder months. Many of the noises are harmless but regardless, this is one of the most FAQ by new members. Refer to this thread and this thread for more information.

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HOW-TO's - For all the DIYers and penny pinchers. Tons of write-ups and how-tos here for you.

** Use the search in the forums.
** Here are two directory lists:
Mazdaspeed 6 How-To's
Mazdaspeed 3 How-To's

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MODS/MODDING
NOTE: Any type of modding could potentially void your factory Mazda warranty!

Browse through this forum first: MSF Approved Vendors
These are our Forum Sponsors and Approved Vendors. Some are parts retailers, some distribute their own products, and some develop proven products for the MS lineup. They have remained on this list because they have proven themselves with quality products, fair pricing & great customer service. Several of them have been supporting the Mazdaspeed DISI platform since the release of the first MS6 in 2005.

PREVENTATIVE MEASURES - You want to make your Mazdaspeed last longer...

Boost gauge
Boost gauges are standard on the Gen2 MS3, but not on the Gen1 MS3 or MS6. Generally speaking, it is preferable to monitor boost using a scantool or tuning utility like a Cobb AP rather than splicing into the factory vacuum tubing and adding another potential point of failure, however, having one is better than not having one. You will want to try and stay out of boost under 3000 RPM, and avoid it altogether in 6th gear. Boosting at low RPM's in these cars puts a very high strain on the engine because torque is high and engine speed and oil pressure are relatively low. Refer to the “How To” sections above for the MS3 and MS6 for details on the install.

Scan Tool
There are several of them out there. ELM327, DashHawk, DashDaq, ScanGauge, Ultragauge, etc. Highly recommended to purchase one to be able to monitor engine parameters, check & clear CELs, and have some fun with performance times. These also provide datalogging capabilities that are necessary for tuning. Some tuning devices also have datalogging & diagnostic tools in them so simply do some research to see what will be best for your plans.

Oil Catch Can (OCC) System
An oil catch can adds an additional oil/air separator to the PCV system. The oil and unclean vapors that once contaminated the intake tract are captured by the catch can. The primary advantage is that the intake valves will stay cleaner. It also helps avoid octane reduction and therefore knock due to oil vapors. There are many OCCs out there. If you pick one up you'll want one with an inlet & outlet of 5/8".

Turbo Timer
This is a matter of opinion, but generally speaking, turbo timers are not necessary with modern water cooled turbochargers. The owner’s manual recommends letting the car idle for one minute before shutting down the car if you’ve been driving spiritedly, however, I find that I am not often going WOT when looking for a parking space, therefore, I do not follow this practice. Turbo timers involve bypassing the factory security system, and they add another point of potential electrical failure.

PERFORMANCE MODIFICATIONS
Now you want to start getting some more power out of the DISI motor?? These are just some basic mods to get you started, research/search when you get to learn the car. Generally, the first three mods most Mazdaspeed owners install are, in this order: RMM, Cobb AP, and HPFP internals. Read on for more on these items.

NOTE: Most items under “FIXES” are recommended before you start POWER modding!

Motor Mounts: - One of the first mods to be done. The factory RMM has a particularly high failure rate on the MS3 and should be replaced immediately if present.
The Motor mounts Thread

Intake - The most basic of mods
Official Intake Thread

E85 - Our platform does not officially support E85, however, extensive experimentation has been performed by some seriously dedicated and awesome people on this forum. Generally speaking, our cars can tolerate up to a 1:3 mix of E85:E10 or E85:Gasoline with a low risk of problems, while gaining a huge amount of performance. Using more E85 will increase your risk of losing fuel pressure due to buildup of precipitates in our HPFP due to its design which inherently involves an interface, however small, of gas and oil. Further information can be found in this forum (read the stickies).

Exhaust - The other most basic of mods
MS6 Exhaust Thread
Gen 1 MS3 Exhaust Thread
THE Gen2 MS3 Exhaust Thread

Downpipes (The downpipe is the same for all MS3’s. MS6’s should carefully research fitment prior to purchasing aftermarket DP’s)
THE Downpipe Thread

Bypass/Blowoff Valves (BPV/BOV)
The BOV Thread

Differential Mounts (MS6 Only) - Upgraded bushings, or upgraded mounts - you will need these eventually.
The Official Diff Mount Thread

Fuel Pumps - Upgraded Cam Driven Fuel Pump Internals
The Official HPFP CDFP Fuel Pump Thread

Intercoolers - TMIC, FMIC - kit vs custom?
The Official Gen 1/2 MS3 Intercooler Thread

Methanol or Water-Methanol Injection (WMI)
Methanol or Water-Methanol injection is a way of both increasing the effective octane rating of the fuel under combustion, and of adding auxiliary/additional fueling to your Mazdaspeed. There are many different ways of implementing it, but most consider it to be one of the best performance-per-dollar mods on the Mazdaspeed platform. There are dedicated subforums in the Gen1 and Gen2 forums where you can read more. Unfortunately, there’s no knowledgebase article for this topic right now.
Methanol Injection Info

Tuning Devices - AP, HyperTech, VersaTune, StandBack? Which is best for you? (hint: probably the AP)
The Official Tuning Devices Thread

Custom Tune - By far the largest power gains to be had on the Mazdaspeed platform comes from a professional tune. You may tune yourself using the above tuning devices, however, most Mazdaspeed owners opt to let a professional e-tuner handle tuning, both for safety, and based on their reputation for making great power. Some of the e-tuners are MSF forum sponsors. Be sure to hit them up first before you head to your local shop, as it takes an experienced hand to tune these cars.

Suspension - Shocks, Struts, Springs, and full replacement Coilovers
The Official MS6 Suspension Thread
The Official MS3 Suspension Thread

Brakes - Big Brake Kits, slotted vs. drilled, rotors & pads
MS3/MS6 Brake Database

Wheels/Tires
This has become a deadly topic the past few years. I will warn you ahead of time & say this is a function minded forum. HellaFlush and Aggressively Stanced Rides aren't the cool thing around here. That being said, there IS a thread for aggressive wheel fitments and it can be found here: Official Aggressive Offset Thread. Functional guys stay the fuck out of this thread.
The Ultimate "Will They Fit" Thread - Functional Fitment questions. Covers Wheels, Tires and Spacers

By the time you get through all of this stuff and you're ready for some big boy mods - manifolds, big turbo kits, built engine - you should have a much deeper knowledge of the Mazdaspeed DISI platform and modifying cars in general and should no longer be needing this thread.

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Nice guide.

incidentally, NCE means No Care Ever.

You might also want to add PMM -Passenger Motor Mount, and TMM -Transmission Motor Mount what with Jamie selling millions of these now.

epic thread!

There's another thread somewhere that most all the acronyms. May be easier to just leave the common ones and add a link to it.


EDIT: Here. It's a sticky, lol http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...cronyms-79573/

wow, good job

I didn't see any MS3 info added as much as MS6? dont forget about us! Other than that great Thread!

I haven't! lol. It's still a work in progress. I'm an MS6 guy so that's where most of my knowledge is catered to/from obviously but I'll add as much MS3 info as possible as I find it & as it's sent my way to update/add to the thread.

As far as the TSB thread, I only found one of the MS6. There wasn't one made up for the MS3s.

Great write up. Sticky

Excellent write-up. I think this definitely deserves a sticky and all new members should be directed here as required reading before posting anything.

Will sticky, clean up old ones soon. MS3 guys, let's post up ms3 links!

You'd be surprised as to how many people don't link "AP" to a Cobb Accessport.

Also, I'd include a "PERM" description as well. :wink1:

Brake thread
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...atabase-72761/

On phone, can't edit easily.

No prob. Thanks. I'd've searched around for more threads but I really spent more time on that at work today than I should have lol. I left my laptop at the office today so I'll edit the brake thread into the OP tmw morning. As well as search for more threads. And maybe work on another sticky thread.


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Edited and added several more links.

I have to say, watching the little video of how the 2.3L Disi Turbo engine goes was pretty interesting.

Good thread, but don't underestimate a noob's ability to miss a sticky. :dance:

Excellent work, maybe this link needs to be added to the first message sent to people when they sign up as well.

I learned a few things from this.

Thanks for the effort (a great deal of it).

yeah no shit. I took the time to read through most of it yesterday while putting some stuff together on the TIPs and gained a lot of knowledge. Lets keep this shit rolling.

Rhoadbloack, whether the guys that read this thread use it, or you want to add it to your search portion of the write-up,

adding asterisks before and after some three letter words will net you results and is called a wildcard search.

Unfortunately, it is hit or miss.

example: *rmm*

We also have versa tune available for Gen 1 MS3 and MS6
great thread though

Oh I know, but now instead of being assholes and saying "search fucking newb!" now we can say "look at the goddamn sticky right in front of your face!"

I think something like that would be great. I've joined several forums that directs you to a welcome thread before you're allowed to post.

Just added a few more things you guys mentioned. Also linked @MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex downpipe thread.

Thanks to everyone who's added any input so far. It's nowhere near completed yet, but we're working on it. Shouldn't be too long before almost every FAQ topic is at least touched on. Keep it coming guys.

I wanted to post something kinda of explaining the raffle/MSF Bucks system on the forum. Something like the following:

A little info on this forum. Up at the top of the page you can see a bar with several tabs on it (User CP, Garage, VIP Membership, etc...). Read the Forum Rules. Then explore the rest. Getting familiar with them will help you understand what's going on here much faster. You will see one of them labeled "Currency". This is your MSF Bucks. With your forum activity you earn MSF bucks. The more you have, the more bragging rights you have. We also hold monthly raffles with prizes donated from our vendors that you can use your MSF bucks to purchase raffle tickets with. More info on the Raffle/MSF Bucks system here: insert thread here

I'd explain it deeper myself but I don't know shit about it or compounding interest or the raffles or nothing because I never bothered because I've got all the bolt ons and giveaway type of items I need lol. Wasn't there a thread where @Raider explained it out a bit?

What just happened?

The FAQ needed to be updated, as it had been 9 months and no updating. I felt it best that since you had not posted in those 9 months, we get someone to combine elements of your thread, and update with more information.

I didn't hear any requests to update anything.. No prob. long live the MS6 :redface:

More links updated.

Great job man! Lots of excellent info on here.

NICE WORK BRO!!!

Updated and added The Motor Mount Thread

Added MS6 Exhaust Thread

MS3 Suspension & Fuel Pump Internals added.

Intercoolers and Gen1 Exhausts should be added soon.

well that was very helpful but i have some issues finding help with my tune problem. nothing i have found so far has been whats wrong...

very helpful. read alot of this already. great job...

Added http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-forum-114281/

Thanks RB, great job... This thread alone is reason enough for me to become a VIP Member! :cool2:

THANKS

I'm new and THANK YOU!

Thank you very much for this thread. It's become my go-to source for accronyms. At your convenience, could you please add the following: BAT - Boost Air Temperature, IAT - Intake Air Temperature, and MAFS - Mass Air Flow Sensor?

I just spent a frustrating 30 minutes searching for a definition for "BAT".

Thanks.

Today I popped my MS3 virginity and bought a 2010, I'd like to say a big THANKYOU! for all your hard work on assembling this thread and to all the members who contributed. :rock: