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(Thread Starter) | Mazdaspeed Forums Spark Plug Index Database Gap size - 0.26 - 0.32 | Preferred gap is between 0.26 to 0.28 Type and Specs on DISI 2.3l Spark Plugs: 14mm; 5/8 hex; 25mm reach; projected tip; resistor plug Heat Range Conversion Chart Code: HKS 25 30 35 40 45 50 52.5 55 DENSO 16 20 22 24 27 31 32 34 NGK 5 6 7 8 9 10 10.5 11
NGK Copper Plugs LZTR4A-11 (5306) LZTR5A-13 (4306) BKR7E
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| Not Ranked : 0 score HKS has plugs available for the MS3/MS6 as well I actaully have a set of the heat range 7 (1 step colder) from the HKS-USA site: 50003-M35LF *Mazda MZR Engine* ; Mazda 3, Mazda 6, MX-5 '06 7 $22.97ea. 50003-M40LF *Mazda MZR Engine* ; Mazda 3, Mazda 6, MX-5 '06 8 $22.97ea. BTW, I've also been running the NGK 6510's gapped @ .32 for almost a year now and they are great
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| Not Ranked : 0 score i dont think the ones on my car were ever gapped. ken just told me it isnt necessary unless the car doesnt run right...lol we'll see. |
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(Thread Starter) | Twist in until it stops by hand using the extension of the ratchet.. than one 1/4 inch turn to secure. Be sure to use a dab of anti seize on the threads and a dab of di-electric grease on the top of the plug where the coil connects to.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I am guessing the .30 to .32 gapping is in mm? |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Start at .038 and work your way down from there. We have found that on stock gap (.042) the NGK's seem to work very well with stock boosted applications. If you turn up the boost your going to want to knock that gap down a little bit. We have ran them as high as .038 at 21 psi on the stock turbo. I have yet to have blow out problems with the one range colder plugs. |
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(Thread Starter) | No one has sourced a copper plug compatible with these COPs yet.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I just wanted to Throw this out there. I thew in a set of NGK 5610s last night and found that the stock plugs in my car (fomoco) were gapped at .030!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Started the ngks at .038. I wondered what the deal was. I think stock was supposed to be around 40-42???? The car was only touched by mazda before I got it at 30k miles, its around 44k now. Input????? It smoothed it out alot, still getting flames out the back between shifts though sometimes.... |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I personally think it would be useful to post the gap issues with some plugs. For example, both the stock heat range Denso and one step colder NGK are both factory gapped at ~.045. That isn't correct for our motor and requires a funky bend on the ground electrode. They work, but are not ideal. Denso 1 and 2 step colder are the proper gap.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score my understanding is as follows: good for more extensive mods. and they will also help keep knock at bay |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score does anyone know the part number for the denso itv 22's trying to get them at an advanced auto parts near my house and theyre retarded and cant find it by "itv 22" they need a part number
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I have repeated issues with colder plugs, I fry then in like 2k miles. the arm over electrode looks glazed white like ceramic and i get misfire trouble codes. this happened with Densso itv 22 and 24 and the NGKs, So i am gonna go back to stock plugs ! fuck this bs. I may consider trying itv 20 stock heat and see if they hold up. its happening more often ive got the maf tuned to about 12-12.5 A/F I wanted to ask can anyone explain why i am having plug issues .... they come out looking like the car runs lean even before I made air/fuel higher. and we all know the car runs rich. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score ^ thats a strange issue, i am running the denso 2 step colder and the only issie i have after 8k miles is a rough idle sometimes. Are they gapped correctly? |
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and yes i've checked the gap multiple times.on the good side, i can get my TMIC off in 5 mins flat now cause i've had to change my plugs so many dang times. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score the ITV22s come gapped at .32 i thought, and i just spoke to cobb and they said to gap to .28 if you have the AP. is prefered gap what people who have the AP are running? or is that for stock ECU in which case the ITV22s come ready.
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And i had a coil go bad on my half mile from my house i limped(ran off 3 cyl, car shook really bad barely accelerated.) to mazda fully bolted with fmic and they replaced ignition coil. Dashhawk said misfire cyl 1 i changed 4 plugs still same thing, i swap coil from 1 to 2 and the error switched from 1 to 2. Coil is bad. And earlier same day i had cyl 4 misfiring, i replaced plug and it went away and it only misfired under boost 10 psi or more, this is getting annoying ! i think this colder plug bull shit is just an excuse for people who cant tune out knock or something, people with stock plugs have no issues at all. i ordered 4 stock plugs at a rediculous 15 ea. mazda dont even stock coil nor plugs because theyve never seen any go bad they said ! parts made me pre pay for plugs because they are special order, not stocked. my friend has stock plugs cpe tbe and cpe cai and he dynoed more power then me ...... with stock intercooler. And i have everything. so wtf ? he got 272 i got 265, then they sprayed our intercoolers with NOS and i got 281 he got 285. My intercooler made the difference here. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Someone confirm these are the correct plugs for the mazdaspeed3: 4 DENSO IRIDIUM Power Spark Plugs ITV22 5340 - Chevy:eBay Motors (item 270389179968 end time Nov-07-09 11 06 PST)
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| Not Ranked : 0 score what have you guys found to be the most reliable aftermarket plugs, it seems to me that these colder ones arnt lasting as long. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score For aluminum heads I always use 13 ft lbs. Btw... my stock, from the factory plugs (09 MS3) were at .28 gap. From the factory. I checked them all w/ feeler guages. All 4 were at .28 perfectly.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score mhmm...my understanding of ngks is that we use 6510 for 1 step colder. not that part number. |
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