Damond Motorsports PMM Review

[Atticaz]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Absolutely. If you ever want part of an assembly we sell, don't hesitate to e-mail us through the website, or at orders@damondmotorsports.com. We'll be putting the bushing and sleeve kits on the website soon.

SUPER SWEET!!!

[Enki]

Originally Posted by Nel Mazdaspeed That's weird, I have jbrs 80 rmm and 70 pmm and no vibes at my rvm... check to see if you can tighten the mirror.

Yes, but do you have a BSD?

[Nel Mazdaspeed]

Originally Posted by Enki Yes, but do you have a BSD?

I do not..

[Enki]

That's why. I'm running JBR trilogy (70 duro, chromoly rear) with a BSD and it's like this:



To be fair, I'm pretty sure it's just the PMM that's causing most of the vibes. Didn't change at all with the chromoly rear.

[macdiesel]

Is the jbr PMM Ill advised with a bsd and rmm? Vibe like a mother?


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[Enki]

Originally Posted by macdiesel Is the jbr PMM Ill advised with a bsd and rmm? Vibe like a mother? Sent from my iPhone using sausage fingers

I don't know about others, but in my car with stock idle I can see the hood flex with vibrations over a quarter inch. There may be other factors, though.

[xfeejayx]

Originally Posted by Enki I don't know about others, but in my car with stock idle I can see the hood flex with vibrations over a quarter inch. There may be other factors, though.

aside from a midget stripper trying to make a living under your hood, what other factors could move it a 1/4 at idle??

[Enki]

Engine problems, big rubber dick stuffed into the intake, etc. I don't know, just covering my bases.

I plan on changing my RMM/PMM/Midpipe exhaust hangars (currently urethane) this weekend (hopefully).

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Enki Engine problems, big rubber dick stuffed into the intake, etc. I don't know, just covering my bases. I plan on changing my RMM/PMM/Midpipe exhaust hangars (currently urethane) this weekend (hopefully).

To?

[Enki]

[Enki]

Swapped JBR 70 side, chromoly rear and CS urethane hangars (on DP) for MD side, rear and stock rubber hangars; results are in:

[Matt@DamondMotorsports]

Originally Posted by Enki Swapped JBR 70 side, chromoly rear and CS urethane hangars (on DP) for MD side, rear and stock rubber hangars; results are in:

hearing this review, got me all like:

[Enki]

You should totally sponsor me a TMM or let me test one before they come out.

[Bucker]

Originally Posted by dinoxor Because of these review, I went ahead a purchased one. Thanks again

Same here.

[Bucker]

Just installed, this thing is great!

[Jadcock]

Sweet baby jesus.

From what I'm gathering, the CS PMM is the loudest and vibest... Well I have all 3 of their mounts. Yes the full trans replacement not the inserts. I'm actually really satisfied with the trans mount. When I just had their TMM and their race RMM things weren't bad at all with the oem pmm.

THEN

I installed that damn PMM. I have around 2,500 miles on it and driving 40 miles to school a few times a week in traffic riding gears down and low rpms is KILLING ME.

Very excited that I stumbled on this mount and I have every intent to buy one. I was going to settle for a jbr 80 pmm but I'm reading that this one has noticeably less than jbr? awesome sign me up.

[Jadcock]

Just ordered and they shipped it 30min later wow!
Can't wait to install. I'm tired of the steering wheel bouncing at idle and a free hand massage when you go to turn the radio volume up.

[Jadcock]

Just installed this afternoon.
Holy shit I'm forever greatful!
I can hear the road, the exhaust, even the wind on the windshield when I'm crusing around 60.
Even if it never broke in I'd be completely satisfied. But when It does break in it'll only be that much better!

Mount setup.
- CS Race RMM
- CS TMM Full Replacement
- Damond PMM

There is a tad more movement but the CS PMM is basically a solid mount so I dont even care because it's so quiet. I may be interested in the DM RMM next

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Jadcock Just installed this afternoon. Holy shit I'm forever greatful! I can hear the road, the exhaust, even the wind on the windshield when I'm crusing around 60. Even if it never broke in I'd be completely satisfied. But when It does break in it'll only be that much better! Mount setup. - CS Race RMM - CS TMM Full Replacement - Damond PMM There is a tad more movement but the CS PMM is basically a solid mount so I dont even care because it's so quiet. I may be interested in the DM RMM next

I love seeing reviews like this. Thank you for taking the time to share it.

[AMOC]

Sorry this is a slight bump, but I somehow just came across this; the only previous "Damond" part I knew of and informed people highly of is the OCC vs the other cheap ones.

Well, I just discovered after someone told me that you guys have a full set of motor mounts and plenty of other parts as well.

Just to double check @farhan@DM, this will work on a non speed3, but a standard 2.3L correct? I know it "should", just want someone to confirm.
I believe I will be replacing my very well worn Street Unit (not SURE), PMM with this one, especially after all of these reviews, and wondering where the C/S mount went... with so many unpleasing reviews from these guys, it looks like it disappeared mainly due to all of the vibrations, got up and walked away!, but I found it, they only list it on the speed3 as well which IMO is unusual as PMM/RMM are the same on both vehicles. (trans - tripod technically is too).
Just good to see new designs from people testing things out.


My old setup before was CPe rear, and then Cpe RMM, Street Unit PMM & TMM (all high duros), and currently is TRZ RMM & TMM and the old SU PMM.

My SU mount is at least 4 years old now and well worn, not to mention it doesn't exist anymore, and the design ... well.. I've seen enough TMM mounts from them to fail so it's time to move on, and I haven't had much interest in going to a JBR since the design for the PMM is unusual in a .. negative way for me (load direction makes no sense for what the PMM is meant for, and how bushes ... work).

So, according to the DM website it should be available next week so awaiting the purchase of that, and may get a review from.. gasp, a non-speed3 person.

I do have BSD as well, just to mention.

I just realized I don't know how to tag users on this forum Or the
What I do finally know though is that I have met Matt before! First EECMM I went to I met him... haven't seen him since lol.

[MS3Shadow]

Originally Posted by AMOC Just to double check @Farhan@DM, this will work on a non speed3, but a standard 2.3L correct? I know it "should", just want someone to confirm.

it should be like this @Farhan@DM;

[Matt@DamondMotorsports]

Originally Posted by AMOC So, according to the DM website it should be available next week so awaiting the purchase of that, and may get a review from.. gasp, a non-speed3 person. I do have BSD as well, just to mention. I just realized I don't know how to tag users on this forum Or the What I do finally know though is that I have met Matt before! First EECMM I went to I met him... haven't seen him since lol.

I'll try an check this again. I have an 08 2.3 Mazda5, which I remember kinda looking at the PMM and going, "well that's slightly different in height over the MS3" We even took it off to try and fit our 1st prototype PMM, but it wasn't going to work, I cannot remember why though.

Do you have the OEM mount laying around by chance? I'm got both my OEM 5 mount and an OEM MS3 mount, I'll try and compare them tonight.

Everything I see online is giving me mixed answers if it's compatible. I wanna find out though.

I only went to that 1 EECMM, I might go again this year though.

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Matt@DamondMotorsports I'll try an check this again. I have an 08 2.3 Mazda5, which I remember kinda looking at the PMM and going, "well that's slightly different in height over the MS3" We even took it off to try and fit our 1st prototype PMM, but it wasn't going to work, I cannot remember why though. Do you have the OEM mount laying around by chance? I'm got both my OEM 5 mount and an OEM MS3 mount, I'll try and compare them tonight. Everything I see online is giving me mixed answers if it's compatible. I wanna find out though. I only went to that 1 EECMM, I might go again this year though.

If the MZ3 is the same as MZ5, the MS3 pmm will not fit.

Is this getting added to my list?

[AMOC]

Originally Posted by Matt@DamondMotorsports I'll try an check this again. I have an 08 2.3 Mazda5, which I remember kinda looking at the PMM and going, "well that's slightly different in height over the MS3" We even took it off to try and fit our 1st prototype PMM, but it wasn't going to work, I cannot remember why though. Do you have the OEM mount laying around by chance? I'm got both my OEM 5 mount and an OEM MS3 mount, I'll try and compare them tonight. Everything I see online is giving me mixed answers if it's compatible. I wanna find out though. I only went to that 1 EECMM, I might go again this year though.

Guess I got lucky then Matt :p I didn't even know you still had your speed6!

I ... do not have a stock PMM lying around (who wants to, am I right? lol), but I can certainly get measurements to compare to the SU one that's in my car maybe?

I checked RockAuto just for the hell of it, and oddly enough for at least the beck/arnley they show a different part number, but if you click on it it says it can be used on both the 5 and 3, so not sure.
I wouldn't doubt the 3 and 5 are the same however.
I didn't realize the speed was different; I just knew it had that NVH thing bolted onto it.

Not to be 'that guy' but as a side note, it does seem that the JBR, SURE, and CPe mounts have the same part numbers for NAs and Speeds, obviously that can't work in all cases, but I am equally interested in what the difference is.

Bear in mind, my car is an 06. I think the PMMs DID change on the NA3s in the gen2 models; at least, I'm fairly positive the 2.5L models have a beefier motor mount, and IIRC the 2.0L kept the same as the 04-09 models.

[macdiesel]

Amoc needs to upgrade


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[knocturnal]

Do you guys offer Military discount on your products ? I am about to make my purchase right now

[Nliiitend1]

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@Farhan@DM;

@Matt@DamondMotorsports;

[Matt@DamondMotorsports]

Originally Posted by AMOC Guess I got lucky then Matt :p I didn't even know you still had your speed6! I ... do not have a stock PMM lying around (who wants to, am I right? lol), but I can certainly get measurements to compare to the SU one that's in my car maybe? I checked RockAuto just for the hell of it, and oddly enough for at least the beck/arnley they show a different part number, but if you click on it it says it can be used on both the 5 and 3, so not sure. I wouldn't doubt the 3 and 5 are the same however. I didn't realize the speed was different; I just knew it had that NVH thing bolted onto it. Not to be 'that guy' but as a side note, it does seem that the JBR, SURE, and CPe mounts have the same part numbers for NAs and Speeds, obviously that can't work in all cases, but I am equally interested in what the difference is. Bear in mind, my car is an 06. I think the PMMs DID change on the NA3s in the gen2 models; at least, I'm fairly positive the 2.5L models have a beefier motor mount, and IIRC the 2.0L kept the same as the 04-09 models.

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I was on vacation all of last week, and didn't have much of a chance to do this prior.

I checked rockauto too and it was all goofy depending on the manufacture.

If you can get measurements of the SU one, I could let you know if ours will fit. I'd say remove it, put in on a flat surface, and measure the height from the flat surface, to each bolt hole where the mount mounts to the engine. If you have any questions about measuring it, so I can compare, feel free to call 708-680-6834 and I'll be able to respond quicker.

Here's some pics of the difference in the stock mounts.

08 MZ5 left, gen1 MS3 right:








08 MZ5 vs DM PMM





p.s. got rid of the 6, bought another one, sold it, now I drive a slow auto 5

[neganox]

Slow auto 5 that's done the dragon.

[knocturnal]

Bout to order mine in gold today

[knocturnal]

Mount on the way due to arrive tomorrow. That was some fast shipping I must say

[HawkeyeGeoff]

Originally Posted by neganox Slow auto 5 that's done the dragon.

WHO TOLD YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO POST A CAT GIF WITH THIS POST?!

[neganox]

Motherfuckin Toonces.

[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by neganox Motherfuckin Toonces.

Hey Toonces, you're a pretty good driver!

[aromig]

Because shits 'n giggles

[knocturnal]

Is every Thread gonna have cats now?

Back on topic: The mount is installed and works perfectly. No longer do I have that knocking noise when I reverse the car. Going in the opposite direction seems to be faster maybe because the shifts are smoother...idk it just feels faster. I don't know how to explain it. Wheel hop was addressed with my JBR RMM so I cant tell a difference there yet but I do know that this is helping out a lot. There was noooooooooo added vibrations because the wife cant even tell the difference so that's a plus. So far I love this mount. The customer service and shipping was great


Thank you MATT

[Shampu]

Just swapped my JBR 88 for a DM RMM and my stock PMM for a DM.

installed the rear first. Fired up the car. Vibes were probably cut down to atleast half of what they were. Tossed the PMM in and on a cold start the vibes were still less than my previous. Shifts are much smoother and I feel the car being a little quicker as well. There is no hesitation, it just spins and goes now. To anybody thinking of switching. Do it.

I probably put 100 miles on them this weekend, and few vibes the car has are slowly going away. I drive 50 miles a day and the vibes the JBR mount had from deacceleration was driving me mad. These mount don't do that.
Thank you Matt and Farhan.

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Shampu Just swapped my JBR 88 for a DM RMM and my stock PMM for a DM. installed the rear first. Fired up the car. Vibes were probably cut down to atleast half of what they were. Tossed the PMM in and on a cold start the vibes were still less than my previous. Shifts are much smoother and I feel the car being a little quicker as well. There is no hesitation, it just spins and goes now. To anybody thinking of switching. Do it. I probably put 100 miles on them this weekend, and few vibes the car has are slowly going away. I drive 50 miles a day and the vibes the JBR mount had from deacelerstion was driving me mad. These mount don't do that. Thank you Matt and Farhan.

You're very welcome.

Reviews like this are very humbling, and I appreciate every one of them. I'm glad you can increase the performance of your car, and still enjoy driving it.

[knocturnal]

do you guys also get more drivetrain sounds with the PMM. Its like I can hear the timing chain a little. IDK how to explain it. Is anyone else experiencing the same? I would like to know if this is normal

[Addikted To Boost]

Originally Posted by knocturnal do you guys also get more drivetrain sounds with the PMM. Its like I can hear the timing chain a little. IDK how to explain it. Is anyone else experiencing the same? I would like to know if this is normal

Yes that is normal, you wont notice it after a week or so.