Had enough of the ST manifold teasing?

[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by Gerbilo I am talking to a friend, who owns a FoST, right now about this DM conversion. He's mentioned how the ST forum is full of idiots. I'm pretty sure he thinks everyone on MSF is insane in a different way, though.

We are insane. And enjoy handies. Is that a bad thing?

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[Gerbilo]

Originally Posted by WetzMS3 We are insane. And enjoy handies. Is that a bad thing?

Not one bit.

He's just been dealing with a lot of shit with Ford. I might post up the story in the Ecoboost section. Long story short, Ford is buying his '15 FoST back and giving him a '16 because he's had so many issues on a bone stock car. It seems to be ECU related and not IM, so that's a plus for us.

Anyway, I'll let this thread get back on track. Glad to see innovation continue on our platform.

[macdiesel]

More badassery from Damond Motorsports. Thanks guys! And I second a TMIC option.

[monkey.bones.007]

I'm also in for a tmic option. Even if I have to figure it out myself.

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[KiwiFlavor]

Originally Posted by monkey.bones.007 I'm also in for a tmic option. Even if I have to figure it out myself. tapatalk, it sucks

Then you're gonna have to tell me what u do to make it fit

[impossible]

When the cold pipe solution is offered I will definitely be willing to make the leap. Got my first DM products coming in the mail today, can't wait for you guys to release this!

EDIT: Forgot I bought the badass TMM from you guys already months ago lolol

[PurplFox]

Balanced flow, less heat soak, actually looks good IMO. If i can keep my not ready's down to 2 im in for it.

[g00s3y]

#allcylinderlivesmatter

[thrasher1992]

Am I the only one that sees this as a good enough reason to ditch the top mount and go FMIC?

[MS3Shadow]

Or even make the TMIC more better if it would fit.

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[phate]

ZFG about flow or balanced flow.

Give me weight savings.

[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6

Fair enough. I'll watch, and if there are easy solutions then I might consider it. But since mild mods and an E tune will give about as power as one should have in a non-built DD, making the jump to this IM is a very large jump in expense/time/effort for no real tangible benefit.

Originally Posted by thrasher1992 Am I the only one that sees this as a good enough reason to ditch the top mount and go FMIC?

Guaranteed, no. Despite my whinging, the draw is strong. Especially with those summertime sitting-in-traffic BATs suddenly upon us of late.

Originally Posted by MS3Shadow Or even make the TMIC more better if it would fit.

It would make a lot of sense for gen2 guys running meth or E.

[PurplFox]

depending on DM's cost i really don't think it will be that expensive. Most likely less than any other offering on the market for us. DM5Z-9424-A is the 2013-15 intake manifold, found all over for $50. The weight and balance and less heat-soak, makes me want it.

[OverBoosted]

FB post by them said no PI gen2 kit will be $299 for the adapter. Not sure what else come with that though.

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[Gswin10Spd3]

Originally Posted by OverBoosted FB post by them said no PI gen2 kit will be $299 for the adapter. Not sure what else come with that though. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Ouch just read that also. That doesn't even include the manifold. Welp, nvm on my part. I was thinking about $150 tops for a machined adapter and maybe $50 more for the TB wiring extension. I am sure it will benefit some but for that kind of money, it's better spent elsewhere.

[aackthpt]

It's not just that. It's like this: there's the all-day install, particularly as you probably don't already have the right tools to make it go fast. And you gotta delete the EGR. And if you want full benefit might as well go equal length EM. Hmm, I'm in there, might as well replace the old k04. Hey, that'd be a good time to do the downpipe. And it'd be much easier to get it all to work if I go FMIC. Oh dang now I have to top up my tune. Wait, I just dropped $3k and blew my weekends for a month? Shit.

Yep, I'm still trying to talk myself off the ledge. Car parts... when hookers and blow is not an option.

[Thepedigree13]

All the talk is just that...talk. I don't have enough experience with cars to truly determine on my own whether this will be as beneficial as I hope it will be.

However, all it takes is one of us to install this, give a detailed review (with gripes, suggestions during install, butt dyno feelings), and have some sort of data to illustrate the actual flow increase etc.

As soon as someone does this and shows their real world experience with it, $300 doesn't seem nearly as bad. I mean we all spent more than that on hpfp internals.

The idea behind this is good, and regardless what the outcome is, I still give DM credit for continuing to push the platform.

[PurplFox]

Pricing is,way higher than I thought. And need to purchase extras to make it work. Need a couple of stock guys to get one for heatsoke info, and throttle responce.

[Yatta]

Pricing might seem high; adding a Ebay Manifold (why the link doesn’t work... don’t know but http://r.ebay.com/n5e7ZO does work for me). and its still pretty damned cheap for a balanced intake. I suppose it depends on what is added and if they are making the adaptor themselves; the only other part I have seen like this is here Speed 3 - Mazda They are not doing much in the way of integration you would still have to figure out how to line the FoST mani to it (but having metal to work with is good). and they cost a bit more...

[PurplFox]

Not going to deny, I want one. Since maybe I misunderstood what all's included, I'll read it again.
I would expect for the 500, to include preped manifold and adapter, around 400 ill buy and prep my own.
Still very likely to get one just for the heatsoak and flow balance.

I'm an idiot, re-read. Id do it for the total of 350 with extension for the tb.

[Farhan@DM]

More data:
DM Mazdaspeed ST Intake Manifold Dyno Data

Discuss


Video from the Freektune dyno, because who doesn't like a good fireball?

[neganox]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM More data: DM Mazdaspeed ST Intake Manifold Dyno Data Discuss Video from the Freektune dyno, because who doesn't like a good fireball?

Lost 0.1 hp somewhere in there. Would not bang.

[Yatta]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM More data: DM Mazdaspeed ST Intake Manifold Dyno Data Discuss Video from the Freektune dyno, because who doesn't like a good fireball?

I would love to see AFR, MAF and Boost on the graph as well; the headroom for AFR goes up if you are well balanced (i.e. not leaning out well past a lean target).

do you have it fitting with a TMIC yet?

[macdiesel]

Curious about the numbers with a proper tune for the ST manifold


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[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by macdiesel Curious about the numbers with a proper tune for the ST manifold Sent from my iPhone using my stinky little fingers

Further tuning did not significantly change the output.

[cshunter]

Did that car have any headwork?

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[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by cshunter Did that car have any headwork? Sent from my SP-G246279105748201337P

Nope. Just had the 3 angle grind on the valve seats touched up. Nothing special at all.

[phate]

Weight info, for those who are interested in shedding a tiny bit.

ST Mani: 3.6 lb
DM Adapter: 1.7 lb

I don't have a stock manifold weight, only one that has VTCS removed with mild porting. It weighed 7.7lb, so I'm guessing a totally stock mani is around 8.5lb.

Approximate savings: 3.2 lb

[ericrapp0507@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by phate Weight info, for those who are interested in shedding a tiny bit. ST Mani: 3.6 lb DM Adapter: 1.7 lb I don't have a stock manifold weight, only one that has VTCS removed with mild porting. It weighed 7.7lb, so I'm guessing a totally stock mani is around 8.5lb. Approximate savings: 3.2 lb

vtcs couldn't have been more than 1lb, by the feel of it .
Helpful post Phate !

[LittleredMPS]

Got a release date for kits yet?

[Code Monkey]

^ About two weeks out.

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey ^ About two weeks out.

Close. Tomorrow.

[mxlplx71]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Close. Tomorrow.

ooooooh page not available.

[Yatta]

Originally Posted by mxlplx71 ooooooh page not available.

Noticed that as well... maybe the page will be up tomorrow? hah

[MS3Shadow]

Originally Posted by Yatta Noticed that as well... maybe the page will be up tomorrow? hah

i saw it. it was a post on their facebook. maybe it got removed or something.

[WetzMS3]

Moar teasing.

[Farhan@DM]

Strange. Shows up in all 3 of my browsers. Just a link to the fb post. I took out the 's' in the HTTPS since some browsers have issue with it.

[JSmith]

Porn doesnt last long on FB...

[mxlplx71]

well?

[broda]

https://damondmotorsports.com/produc...nt=21148829956

There you go for you lazies