Short Shift Plates

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by WetzMS3 Solid review!

An Easter bunny seal of approval carrries more weight than any volume of words ever could.

But for those of you that are simple I will elaborate.

Installation was easy
Shifts are shorter
I wish i had removed my shifter weight six years ago.

[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny An Easter bunny seal of approval carrries more weight than any volume of words ever could. But for those of you that are simple I will elaborate. Installation was easy Shifts are shorter I wish i had removed my shifter weight six years ago.

I had a similar review of the license plate relocate. Someone asked for a review, "Um, it fits and holds the license plate..."

[Matt@DamondMotorsports]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny An Easter bunny seal of approval carrries more weight than any volume of words ever could. But for those of you that are simple I will elaborate. Installation was easy Shifts are shorter I wish i had removed my shifter weight six years ago.

TL;DR

[SNOW_QN]

So it's best to remove the weight as well when changing out the SSPs?

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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by SNOW_QN So it's best to remove the weight as well when changing out the SSPs? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I prefer it that way I would recommend at Least trying it out.

[SNOW_QN]

Cool. I'll give it a go. Thanks

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[WFO!]

Stock weight+Damond SSP=Perfect.
As good as your Mazda will get. You dont own a Honda.

No weight = cheap chintzy feel. Complete crap when going through the gears fast under power. You need a weight.

[SNOW_QN]

I'll try both and report back

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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by WFO! Stock weight+Damond SSP=Perfect. As good as your Mazda will get. You dont own a Honda. No weight = cheap chintzy feel. Complete crap when going through the gears fast under power. You need a weight.

Wrong.



Lol

It's way easier to go clutch less with no weight. Take a ton of resistance out of the setup.

[Cheapspeed]

I second the stock weight. I've gone lighter, and weightless and came back to stock for smoothest shifting.

[WFO!]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Wrong. Lol It's way easier to go clutch less with no weight. Take a ton of resistance out of the setup.

No, sorry you're wrong professor.
The weight is there for a reason.
Yeah I know, engineers are stupid.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by WFO! No, sorry you're wrong professor. The weight is there for a reason. Yeah I know, engineers are stupid.

I am an engineer. The weight is there for pussies.


Edit: Also good job at not reading everything or having a sense of humor.

[SNOW_QN]

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[WFO!]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny I am an engineer. The weight is there for pussies. Edit: Also good job at not reading everything or having a sense of humor.

Just tell me one thing?

What color is the sky in your world?

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by WFO! Just tell me one thing? What color is the sky in your world?

Same as it is in your world.







Whatever color I tell you it is.

[Farhan@DM]

The weight is there to make the shifter feel like what mazda perceived the preference to be for the 'average person.'

Turns out, @Easter Bunny; isn't average. Who knew?

The presence of a (stock) weight, and/or heavy shift knob will make the shifter feel different. Some people think it feels smooth, others think it feels dead. All personal preference, hence the different options for different people. I think mine will be coming off soon.

[Matt@DamondMotorsports]

Here's how I recommend it, after running a few ways for lots of miles...

-If you have a lighter than stock knob, like the cobb knob, run with no weight.

-If you're running with a heavier than stock knob, run with the stock or an aftermarket weight.

-If you're running a stock or similar weighted knob, run a weight, but lesser than stock.

Regardless, try with/without the weight, it's your car, you'll know what feels right. From what I've found, having it all balanced out, makes for the best shifting feel and enjoyment.

[WFO!]

Matt, the weight is there for more than just preference.
The weight/mass added to the selector plate at the tranny helps gear engagement.....removes the notchniness.....so you're not just jamming it in there.

Like you said it's your car and do what you like but its seems like insanity to me to remove it. Just leave it alone and enjoy the Damond's smooth shifting plate.

It really is there for a reason.

Otherwise you are right back to the "other guys plates and weights". Pure crap. Clunking on downshift, notchiness, etc....just beating the shit out of the gearbox.

My 2 cents.

[jdmage_mx5]

Originally Posted by WFO! ... Clunking on downshift, notchiness, etc....just beating the shit out of the gearbox. My 2 cents.

This as stated previously would be consider a "personal preference". Depends on each person and how they drive.

[Easter Bunny]

I actually feel that you need to balance the weight on the shifter and transmission ends.

I am running no shifter weight, a stratified shifter extended and a stock shift knob. with this there is no notchiness, clunking or resistance whatsoever. also importantly, there is no "bounce" on gear selection when you shift quickly. It is very close in feel to my last car which was rwd and had the shift lever attached directly to the transmission.

If you are running a heavier than stock shift knob you might need to run a weight in order to balance things out.

[WFO!]

Originally Posted by jdmage_mx5 This as stated previously would be consider a "personal preference". Depends on each person and how they drive.

I've seen how they drive MX5, I'm well aware. Ha.

[anavrinIV]

this is officially the weirdest argument I've seen on this forum. Ever. And there has been some weird shit to go down here.

I'm looking for a new SSP for the new car and will probably go with this one because why not. Setup on the juan was stock weight, JBR plate, and COBB knob. But I've had just about every combination.

Stupid question but @Easter Bunny; how do you secure the plate when removing the weight, just a nut and bolt through the holes?

[Easter Bunny]

The Damond Motorsports SSP comes with bolts and nylon lock nuts to attach it to the stock mechanism.

[neganox]

People are wearing their big boy pants in this thread. That's lame. Those pants better come off next time before there is any arguing.

[davychronic]

Love this ssp, using the stratified extension on a cobb knob with stock weight and it has great feel to me. Reminds me of my old sc300 with a r154 trans

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[speedfreak44]

No weight ftmfw

[broda]

Just installed the SSP with the stock weight and it feels amazing. It was surprising how much shorter the throw is with such a small change.

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by broda Just installed the SSP with the stock weight and it feels amazing. It was surprising how much shorter the throw is with such a small change.

Wait till you actually push it.

New to me ms6 this summer. 30 or so drag passes with great 60s, lost track of how many ax runs, and 2 hours of track time, 1 missed shift. Even that was largely because my clutch had enough.

Hope you enjoy it for years like I have my original prototype from 4 years ago.

[broda]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Wait till you actually push it. New to me ms6 this summer. 30 or so drag passes with great 60s, lost track of how many ax runs, and 2 hours of track time, 1 missed shift. Even that was largely because my clutch had enough. Hope you enjoy it for years like I have my original prototype from 4 years ago.

I'm looking forward to it. Unfortunately a lot of my driving is on back roads which are deer infested so I can't go too crazy lol

[dix2003]

I am using this ssp with the stock knob and weight. Very happy with it so far. Much better shift gear feeling.

[blackms3_71]

Just ordered this bad boy. Cant wait to try it out

[Tacheny]

Got mine in the mail and installed today.

I'm in love. It really put my shifter in the sweet spot it's been missing and my throws feel so good. I took my weight off for the first time today and I wish I'd done it sooner. I also have an STS, so I thought the SSP might make my throws too short, but my setup with the extender allows for it.

Great product, OCC is next.

[jm211]

In the 5 years I've owned his car I have yet to choose a preference on this knob/weight/SSP topic. Fuck, it takes me weeks to readjust my seat if someone else drives my car and adjusts it...
IMO, we just have a notchy disconnected feeling shiftter/linkage setup and we have some personal preference options on the best feel for the user and their application. To that...experiment away!

[Jega]

Ordered mine last night. Can't wait. Thanks Damond

[blackms3_71]

Took me all of 10-15 to install. Not as big of a throw reduction at all tbh. But overall shifting feels tighter and smoother.

[Jega]

Originally Posted by blackms3_71 Took me all of 10-15 to install. Not as big of a throw reduction at all tbh. But overall shifting feels tighter and smoother.

+1.. Shifting now feels like how it should have been from the factory. Great product!

[blackms3_71]

Originally Posted by Jega +1.. Shifting now feels like how it should have been from the factory. Great product!

Yeah i deff agree. Less notchy too

[Capricious]

Love the SSP - tried it without weight, wasn't a fan. Put the weight back on and its perfect (w/ cobb knob).

[kpeezy188]

Just purchased the gold SSP a couple of days ago. Can't wait to try it out!

[aackthpt]

With the Damond SSP I use the leather CS knob. I have tested all the weights... from low to high:
-No weight
-Cobb weight
-JBR weight
-stock weight

I concluded that no weight and Cobb were too notchy, stock weight too slow, JBR weight near perfect. Therefore I'm inclined to agree with Matt's comments on balancing the system. With that said, I also think it's a good idea to go with a setup that lightens both as much as you can personally stand to reduce the amount of g-load-induced undesired shifting.