784hp/600tq

[Justin@Freektune]

Let's make this MSF official @Raider;

Yesterday we had a chance to get @LumberJack; car on the Dyno. After his fresh rebuild we made a few pulls on the street. Made sure motor was broken in (70 miles on her when we hopped on the Dyno) plugs looked mint. No smoke whatsoever, converted her to full e85 and started some tuning. We came on the Dyno with 500hp, a couple hours left with 784hp 600tq and I tried to make the tq curve as broad as possible.

Next order of business is to dial in the alignment and suspension, dial power back to make sure she hooks and then keep bringing it in until we reach the point of breaking traction.

Enjoy!


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[Vansquish]

Nice! I can't wait to see how this does at the track.

[[R]usty]

Shit I would stomp that car from 3000 RPM to 3100 RPM

Nice jobs guys can't wait to see some records broken.

[Dano]

did you guys lose some traction there around 4K? if not why the plateau do ya think?

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by Dano did you guys lose some traction there around 4K? if not why the plateau do ya think?

4k or 7k?

7k plateau is loss of timing control
Afterwards


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[Dano]

no right between 4100-4200. did you log the run and lose/plateau some boost there for a sec? just curious.

[Justin@Freektune]

Originally Posted by Dano no right between 4100-4200. did you log the run and lose/plateau some boost there for a sec? just curious.

That was a slight boost oscillation on that pull


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[Easter Bunny]

I think his trap would be too high to ride out fourth.

I hope his trap is too high anyway.

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny I think his trap would be too high to ride out fourth. I hope his trap is too high anyway.

It won't be lol

A 26" tire without accounting for growth expansion under power is 149.xx mph In 4th at 8k rpm

830-850whp which is possible ( I had room left in the turbo ) better weather conditions is approximately 149-151mph assuming it all hooks at my cars new weight


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[Dano]

right on then!

now we're talkin

we know you're in great hands with Justin...the rest is up to you

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Well I'm still holding out hope that you hit the limiter in fourth.

does lumberjack have a euro tranny gearset?
@Realgib3; has one for sale

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by Dano right on then! now we're talkin we know you're in great hands with Justin...the rest is up to you does lumberjack have a euro tranny gearset? @Realgib3; has one for sale

It's actually damn near too long. I'd need substantially more power than I have to utilize that gearing length.


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[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Dano does lumberjack have a euro tranny gearset? @Realgib3; has one for sale

Mine actually just sold, but Bryce is right, they are very long. They're really meant for finishing the 1/4 in 3 gears on a BT very high whp car or finishing in 4 gears on a lowered powered, lower rpm car.

If someone finds a way to make as much power as Bryce AND hold out power to 8500, the gearset would allow 150mph minimum @8500 rpm in 3rd at the track. That was my plan with it, but then part out happened.

[Easter Bunny]

Well I'm still holding out hope that you hit the limiter in fourth.

[Easter Bunny]

I don't even have an AP why would I have diesel gears.




(I know you werent talking to me)

[Dano]

haha i edited my post.

you're just here to stir things up.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by Dano haha i edited my post. you're just here to stir things up.

I'm here for my own entertainment. And to share my wisdom

Pretty sure the gears being too long would be why he is selling them.

[Dano]

OIC.

I'll go back to sleep now

Tappin

[07micasp3]

70 miles on the break in? Thought the rule of thumb was no gate cracking until 1k? Full e85? I may or have no have a slight erection.

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by 07micasp3 70 miles on the break in? Thought the rule of thumb was no gate cracking until 1k? Full e85? I may or have no have a slight erection.

Idk where that rule of thumb came from. Waiting too long to boost and expand the rings can cause premature failure and blow by. The rings need to seat hard and fast and treated how they're gonna be treated.

With today's honing and cross hatch patterns and ring packs rings are seated within the first 25-30 miles.


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[07micasp3]

Originally Posted by LumberJack Idk where that rule of thumb came from. Waiting too long to boost and expand the rings can cause premature failure and blow by. The rings need to seat hard and fast and treated how they're gonna be treated. With today's honing and cross hatch patterns and ring packs rings are seated within the first 25-30 miles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I completely understand. I see mixed answers all the time. I can contest to the cross hatch patterns - I am running CPs and totally didnt even realize that depending on the model of the rings - they request a certain hone. Pretty cool IMO.

I guess when I'm all together I'll just have to putt around a little then start driving aggressively.


DID you run a 10 yet? haha

[Dano]

Originally Posted by LumberJack Idk where that rule of thumb came from. Waiting too long to boost and expand the rings can cause premature failure and blow by. The rings need to seat hard and fast and treated how they're gonna be treated. With today's honing and cross hatch patterns and ring packs rings are seated within the first 25-30 miles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

truth.

my current motor has around 7k on it. it saw 15 psi (GTX3071) within 20 minutes of startup at roughly 25 miles. not WOT pulls but 3/4 up to 5k ish. after 10 runs like that, with associated decel, an oil change then it was full on.

As you said, modern motor honing techniques (deck plate, cross hatch, plateau hone) take care of 90% of the "break-in" process. so there really is no break-in required in the traditional sense. i.e. non treated steel rings performing the plateau process. Rings are coated and polished out of the box as well as the cylinder walls.

since then I've run 28-30 psi on a daily tune and never take it easy on the car..lol

my last health check, about 500 miles ago, had compression at 190 across the board with 5-6% leakdown and zero oil consumption.

in the end, there are still varying opinions on the subject but I think if the data were accurately analyzed, it would reveal a trend away from the necessity for a traditional form of break-in. new school vs old so to speak.

[SofaKingAwesome]

Here's the obligatory post



Now 10s!!!

[RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3]

Are you still in stock cams and stock throttle body???

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 Are you still in stock cams and stock throttle body???

Yes I am, my jmf has the lager 75mm opening but that's it.


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[07micasp3]

So much on the table. Gonna be a 10sgiving soon.